So what else do they have left to do for the next movies? I thought that the ending of the first film was practically the halfway point of the book…

You gotta rewatch Prometheus before year’s end, Sean. Frank is so right.

I think the biggest missed opportunity for me was in the book the Wargs and Eagles have lines of dialogue. I think the Wargs looks a lot better in The Hobbit. Much more wolf-like. I just wish they’d stuck with giving them a bit more of that role because it would be so much more badass.

*Slight Spoiler – Universe Background*
Yeah, I know. I know too much about this, obviously. But the discussion on Gandalf and religion that Jay brought up and just what wizards are doing. The best comparison I can make for Jay is probably like Zeus in Immortals. It’s this universe’s rough equivalent of an incarnate deity (although much more vulnerable). Sauron and Gandalf are roughly of the same order, but Gandalf has taken a mortal form and is thus at a disadvantage.

Am I the only one that misses the old trailer trash talk music?

Oh and that orc villain was invented for the movie. I liked it though, it’s just a shame they didn’t do him with costume and make-up.

(The image is also my response to Sean even asking such a question.)

The albino Orc who we see having his arm cut off outside Moria is Azog – in the history of middle earth he actually died in that battle. Jackson is obviously using him as a major antagonist. It’s actually his son Bolg who leads the goblins into the Battle of the Five Armies at the end of the book. So we may see Azog killed at the end of Part 2 – giving his Son the reason to rise up the goblin army. I’m only guessing though.

Speaking if comparing Pacfic Rim to Power Rangers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfB09Wie6yk&sns=em

Jay needs to grow a pair, he always has this holier-than-thou attitude when the men on the show talk about wanting to (or not to) bang somebody.

This episode was old-school funny, the pineapple chocolate at the beginning before the Hobbit discussion helped to set the right tone, just like Gregg’s stories did in the past..

I can send you ethnic chocolates as well if that is what it takes..

@Sean – Gandalf throwing his voice to confuse the trolls could’ve been one of the more fun and interesting bits of dialogue in the whole movie. Not boring!

I’m pissed that Jackson adds two hours of shit that doesn’t need to be there, but cuts this very subtle but also what could’ve been a great interaction. Of course it’s difficult to work on actual dialogue and characters when you have to focus on technology and CGI.

Second time Frank has mentioned Power Rangers on the show. I wonder if he’s a fan of henshin/sentai? “Henshin-A-Go-Go Baby!”

@Henrik #18 In a past episode, didn’t Jay ejack when telling the guys Lizzie Caplan was number 1 on his hit list. I also remember him calling Maggie Q “so fine” or something like that(which is surprising since he hates Asians).

Lilly Colins talks like Alison Lohman. The way her voice sounds and the way her mouth moves.

Ok, that didn’t quite work out as planned, there was supposed to be a big empty space between them obviously. Anyway, Lohman is much finer than Colins imo.

I miss Gregs stories, Jackson square calmed down? You must have seen something crazy in the last few weeks of christmas shopping while stocking book shelves, surely? I always love/loved the random stories to open up the podcast before getting into more serious shit but it seemed to be more of a regular feature back in the day.

Is there any other reason aside from the obvious ($$$) for why The Hobbit was made into a trilogy? It’s a much, much smaller story to tell than LoTR. Making matters worse is this first installment is 2 hours and 45 minutes. And, to add to the insult, there is this from the always trust worthy site, blu-ray.com: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Hobbit-An-Unexpected-Journey-Blu-ray/57035/

Extended Edition! Make it stop! Please make it stop! Didn’t Jackson learn anything from his incredibly long and boring take on King Kong?

I’ve caught the tail end of “Hobbit” a few times at my theater now. Are they on a quest to the Paramount logo? That sure is what it looks like. Maybe we’ll find out next Christmas in the second film, “The Hobbit: An Inconvenient Mountaintop”.

Seeking a Friend for the End of the World was truly horrible. Jay is right on the money there. I usually love Kiera Knightley, but she was incredibly annoying.

Between you all you covered most of my points re The Hobbit.

I acclimatised almost immediately to the HFR but for the first half I didn’t like looking onto a soundstage, I wanted to watch a film.

I felt embarrased for the actors in the feast at Bilbo’s house as it looked as if they were over-acting because of the ultra reality and I thought the early CGI was shit.

MAJOR SPOILER ALERT.

However from the meeting with Sauron onwards it was as if they managed to get the hang of shooting with HFR and they captured a more film like look for the most part. The fact that it became really good from that point helped.

The CGI from the giants fight onward looked great to me too, very convincving.

Gollum in particular came across as ghouish and dangerous for the first time in these films.

What part of Ireland are you visiting Jay?

mr jay, i dunno, i’m not sure how to put this
but i know that you know that a work (of art) should and can be judged by its own. it can’t be any other way, really

“you haven’t read the book
you need to see the entire anthololology
..and buy the cassettes”
nah, wrong.

so.. 0.5 for flight, and 3.5 for the hobbit. oh c’mon

sirs, splendiferous podcast
kudos to all

Bindaberg ginger beer?

Even though I’m not a bender (in that context bender is ‘Queenslander’…banana bender)..believe you mean Bundaberg.

http://www.bundaberg.com/info/product_range/ginger_beer/

And re Tim Tams…fantastic stuff, and go the expanded product line (Turkish Delight Tim Tams….)

http://www.arnotts.com/our-products/products/arnotts-tim-tam.aspx

Finally got to hear you guys review The Hobbit and thought you made some great points – why aren’t all the dwarves look like actual dwarves? Good question. I have no idea. It didn’t distract me enough to put it down as a flaw, though. And the Eagles thing… yeah, that’s a problematic plot device to say the least.

But all in all the movie was amazing. I watched it in the ancient method of 2D and 24 fps so no distractions there.

One thing I found odd is the almost unanimous criticism you had of the prologue that connects this film to FOTR. It barely clocks in 10 minute screen time and does a fine job of establishing the connection between the two. I think it would’ve been weird to just start the movie without some kind of a framing device considering the LOTR films have been done previously. It’s also a nice gesture (not pandering) for fans to see Frodo again.

It’s almost bittersweet, realizing we’re watching his final days as an innocent Hobbit. It reflects nicely on Bilbo’s story as well.

concerning the ‘riddles in the datk’ scene, there were actually several more riddles in the book that were excluded from the movie. this was my favorite scene, and i agree that visually and performanee-wise Gollum/Serkis really upped the ante from the LOTR. Being a fan of the book I can say there are many many discrepancies between the two. Radigast, specifically, (sp?) is only breifly mentioned in passing in the book. As for the Pale Orc, I don’t know where that came from. Peter Jackson has taken far too many liberities with this movie. Furthermore, Tolkien depicts the dwarfs as bumbling, comical and often cowardly characters. Thorin is not Aragorn. Tolkien made him little more than a greedy, bombastic fool. Overall The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey was a major disappointment. The Hobbit, unlike LOTR, is not an epic. It is more an adventure of errors; that is, the dwarfs, through stupidity or lack of foresight, find themselves into some unpleasant situation and either Gandalf or Bilbo turns up and saves the day.

the guy saying 48fps look worst in motion is a complete moron.. its crystal clear when it pans.. even fast and for this movie makes the action so clear and amazing.. esp the goblin scene, ive seen it in 24fps also and i can say that every time the camera moves, its blurry..

the visuals with 3d and 48fps is gorgeos and 3d needs to be at 48fps to get the full effect.. and it shows.

anyone only watching in 24fps are missing out completely.. have fun with blurry action idiots