Film Junk Podcast Episode #389: Frankenweenie and End of Watch
0:00 – Intro
5:00 – Review: Frankenweenie
34:45 – Review: End of Watch
1:01:15 – Headlines: Seth MacFarlane to Host the Oscars, A Good Day to Die Hard Trailer, The Lone Ranger Trailer, Movie 43 Trailer
1:19:40 – Other Stuff We Watched: Taken 2, The Winning Season, The Avengers, Freaks and Geeks, Greg’s Trip to Disney, The Hole, Point Blank, Sleepless Night, Black Sunday, The Brain, Re-Animator, The Cabin in the Woods, Dead & Buried, Dracula, Frankenstein, The Bride of Frankenstein, Frankenhooker, Dead Space
2:01:15 – Junk Mail: Are Premium Podcasts a Chore?, When Have You Actually “Seen” a Movie?, Please + Breaking the Fourth Wall, Sequels That Are Nothing Like Their Predecessor, Most Disturbing Films + Classics That Left You Underwhelmed, Paul W.S. Anderson vs. Len Wiseman vs. Brett Ratner, Favourite Studio Intros / Logos, Releasing PG-13 and R-Rated Cuts Simultaneously in Theatres
2:26:35 – This Week on DVD and Blu-ray
2:27:10 – Outro
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Comments (26)
I think Frank lost another bet.
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/new-batch-of-robocop-reboot-set-pics-reveal-a-detailed-look-at-the-armor-michael-keaton-and-protesters
Posted by rjdelight on October 8th, 2012For that Romero Dead special make sure to geekbust and point out those fast zombie kids in the gas station from DotD. Also, you guys better jerk off the Trioxin theme when talking RotLD. So good.
Posted by Tum Tum Tyranus on October 8th, 2012Looking forward to this one!
Scott
Posted by scott on October 9th, 2012http://www.ReconditePictures.com
Frank is such a prude. Who cares about kids, let alone random peoples kids!
Posted by Kasper on October 9th, 2012Frank, you’re bumming me out with your inability to drop the found footage issue re: End of Watch; it’s a hybrid FF/traditional film, and maybe you like it or maybe you don’t… that’s all you had to say about it.
I feel like the listeners lost out on a more in-depth (and more interesting) discussion on the themes, plot, and performances of one of the best movies of the year because so much time was spent on something that could be addressed and moved on from quite quickly.
Posted by Colin on October 9th, 2012Wow, you guys really hate The Avengers… Like, really really hate it. I’m surprised.
Posted by Kasper on October 9th, 2012The Avengers is a really, really boring movie… what’s not to hate?
Posted by Colin on October 9th, 2012Romero Dead special sounds boring, do something else.. like Kubrick, or Jason Statham special..
Posted by jimhatman on October 9th, 2012The main issue with The Avengers for me is, because the writing is punchline heavy, on rewatches the impact fades each time. The lull between the Germany showdown till the battle in New York becomes very exposed. I still enjoy it but it does have lingering flaws.
Posted by Ric on October 9th, 2012How could you guys not reference the great Ferris Bueller’s Day Off with its constant breaking of the third wall?! Shame, gents, shame.
Posted by Lori C on October 9th, 2012Oops, meant fourth wall!
Posted by Lori C on October 9th, 2012I LOVED violent cop/crime movies as a little kid! No joke. Frank’s a puss!
And Sean, those screen filling titles were actually used in the old Die Hard trailers as well as Die Hard 3′s title sequence, so I guess Fincher’s the thief.
Posted by Fatbologna on October 9th, 2012Fatbologna: I wasn’t aware of that, but I was talking more about the actual font. It has the exact same distressed look as the first The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo trailer.
Lori: Good point.
jimhatman: I take it you are not a horror movie fan.
Posted by Sean on October 9th, 2012Jay being indignant with both Tim Burton and Michael Haneke (again again) in one show is like a years worth of emotional investment from him! So this is really a special show…
By the way, to defend Tim Burton (not having seen the new Frankenweenie) here’s another take on the controversy of being morally bankrupt (spoilers ahead for wicked movies so watch out): In Sleepy Hollow, there’s a scene where the horseman attacks and slays a family. The mother hides the kid under the floor, and the horseman is about to exit, but then comes back to claim the kid as the 3rd head. Now, in the commentary track, Tim Burton says that he didn’t really want to kill the kid, but then he remembered that he always hated in these kinds of movies that the kid survives shit like this, and thus decided he needed to kill the kid – a decision many people would call morally bankrupt. Couldn’t the Frankenweenie thing be explained by Tim Burton not being a fan of kids movies ALWAYS having morally sound lessons, thought up by adults, and his personality is just to do the opposite. You could say these are both instances of him sticking it to the adults who think they know better, and while this still might not qualify in Jays mind as being enough to make Tim Burton an auteur. but I think it’s the very definition of what makes one an auteur, especially in a studio environment. Little personality quirks like that are what makes Tim Burton what he is, still to this day he is not Len Wiseman or Steven Spielberg, even if his cinematography might look more like it now than earlier.
Posted by Henrik on October 9th, 2012(Sorry for the unappealing novel, but this is important shit!)
Posted by Henrik on October 9th, 2012I’ve met many people who have seen the Avengers in the last 2 weeks on re-watch and don’t feel nearly the magic this time around, myself included. I did appreciate Tom Hiddleston a bit more this time round though…
Posted by James on October 9th, 2012I was generally underwhelmed by The Avengers and Citizen Kane on my first and only watches.
Mind you I’ve just re-watched Prometheus and gone from disappointed to impressed so I think I need to re-watch both films.
Posted by Gerry on October 9th, 2012The Live Free or Die Hard unrated cut is total bullshit. The classic line is still muffled. They basically just added more digital blood.
Posted by rjdelight on October 9th, 2012There seems to be an increasing amount of tension between Jay and Frank. Ala David and Maddie, or Tony and Angela. There must be some way to relieve this tension. To uncork this bottle, if you will.
Posted by el ohroy on October 10th, 2012My favorite “breaking the 4th wall” moment is in Trading Places, when the Dukes are explaining commodities to Billy Ray:
Randolph Duke: We are ‘commodities
brokers’, William. Now, what are
commodities? Commodities are agricultural
products… like coffee that you had for
breakfast… wheat, which is used to make
bread… pork bellies, which is used to make
bacon, which you might find in a ‘bacon and
lettuce and tomato’ sandwich.
[ Billy Ray turns and gives a long look at the
camera]
I think Frankenweinie refers to the dog being a “Weiner dog,” which, for those who don’t know, is slang for a dachshund, and also the subject of a great Norm MacDonald bit.
Posted by Brendan on October 10th, 2012@ #20
But the dog in Frankenweenie is not a Dachshund. He’s a Bull Terrier.
Posted by MovieViewer-Man on October 10th, 2012@ #21
And “Frankenterrier” just sounds silly.
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on October 10th, 2012Hey, TriStar is still around, and has had their name on films as recently as “Looper”! Wikipedia says that TriStar, which used to distribute most of Carolco’s movies, was re-launched a few years back as a marketing and acquisitions unit that has a particular emphasis on genre films. “Sparkle”, “Courageous”, “Colombiana”, and “District 9″ are all somewhat recent TriStar releases.
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on October 11th, 2012Rewatched “Ed Wood” yesterday.
Posted by Markus Krenn on October 11th, 2012It had a really nice 4th wall breaking.
@Movie Viewer-Man: Yeah, I wasn’t sure what type of dog it was supposed to be. I see now that in the original live action short, the dog was definitely a bull terrier. I just assumed it was supposed to be a weiner dog because that makes the most sense.
Maybe the reason he called it Frankenweenie is that Tim Burton is a nut bag.
Posted by Brendan on October 11th, 2012I realize this is very old podcast, but i just got around to finishing the podcast, but I recall the King’s Speech was released in a PG-13 format along with the R version and cut out some of the swearing.
Posted by CrumbThumber on October 15th, 2012Leave a Reply