Open Forum Friday: Should Spider-Man Be in The Avengers 2?
With fans currently divided over whether or not The Amazing Spider-Man is a worthwhile re-envisioning of one of Marvel’s key characters, one of the obvious questions being asked is whether The Avengers may have overshadowed this smaller scale reboot. The new version of Spidey has a lot less star power and special effects muscle, but it’s also worth noting that Marvel’s handling of their own superheroes feels inherently more confident and assured than other studios. You would think that Marvel would have been limited by the fact that their A-list heroes had already been licensed out, but they clearly made the best of the situation. Still, you have to wonder… will there ever come a time that the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and other franchises might crossover with the Marvel Cinematic Universe?
As it turns out, a juicy little rumour started up last week when Andrew Garfield was spotted in New York carrying a stack of Avengers comic books. It was also recently revealed that Marvel and Sony previously tried to insert the Oscorp building into the New York skyline of The Avengers. Clearly the financial arrangements behind something like this would be *very* complicated, but if they’re looking for a way to make The Avengers 2 even bigger than its predecessor, this would be one way to do it. What do you think? Would you like to see Marvel have access to some of their flagship titles again? Would a collaboration like this be mutually beneficial for both studios? Could you actually see Andrew Garfield fitting into the cast of The Avengers 2? Give us your thoughts here on Open Forum Friday.
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I say a big NO!
Posted by Steve Kasan on July 6th, 2012It would be cool to see, but, The Avengers is the perfect forum to bring other marvel characters to the general public. There is not point tagging in Spidey as there really is not benefit and the cost would be severe.
You have characters such as Black Panther, Ant Man, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Vision, etc. Showcase them instead of the Web Head. He’s busy trying to find the untold story about his parents anyway.
I think it would be a perfect fit and definitely give a boost to both franchises. I don’t know if Sony and Marvel can come to terms on an agreement but if they did then Avengers 2 would probably be my most anticipated movie of all time. It would be huge.
Posted by Bob Phelan on July 6th, 2012I don’t see Marvel doing a much worse job than any other studio with these properties, and they do feel more entitled, so I’d say they should get it all back.
Posted by Henrik on July 6th, 2012It’s the next big “event” step for these movies, for sure.
Would get a lot of people to go see it.
Posted by phil on July 6th, 2012I’d much rather see Spider-Man show up in The Avengers 2 than either Ant-Man, Black Panther or The Wasp. Make it happen.
Posted by Kasper on July 6th, 2012It would definitely be cool to see Garfield’s Spidey interact the other characters, particularly Tony Stark. It would also be interesting because Peter Parker is comparatively younger than the rest of the team, is he not?
Posted by Steve on July 6th, 2012yessssssssssssss the avengers will go to awesome to amazing!
Posted by aman on July 6th, 2012It would be so awesome of spidey was in the avengers 2!!!!
Posted by John on July 6th, 2012I would see it a million times!!!!
More heroes = even less focus, but I think we’re headed towards this anyways. They seem to have pulled it off with the Avengers, and I kind of knew after they did the Avengers that they would try and build towards something even bigger, like Civil War or Secret Wars. Spider-man was totally part of the Secret wars, so I don’t see why they wouldn’t. That’s what the Skrull at the end of The Avengers is implying, right? Secret Wars?
Posted by Jonny Ashley on July 6th, 2012Oh wait, inb4 Thanos is not a Skrull.
Posted by Jonny Ashley on July 6th, 2012If the battle at the end of Avengers-film was in New York, then where was Peter Parker? This problem with heroes having the same setting, but never noticing each other has always troubled me…
Posted by La Menthe on July 6th, 2012Thanos implies Infinity Gauntlet, especially since the Infinity Gauntlet was already seen in Asgaard in the Thor film.
Posted by Matt Gamble on July 6th, 2012This would probably interest me in Avengers 2. I wasn’t a huge fan of The Avengers but really enjoyed The Amazing Spiderman, and Garfield’s take on Spiderman.
Posted by Captain N on July 7th, 2012he can get it on with Black Widow
Posted by scott gibbons on July 7th, 2012First they need to recast who’s playing Hulk…
Posted by Alobar on July 7th, 2012Not because Mark Ruffalo was bad or anything… but they need to keep with tradition. Also Robert Downey jr will be replaced by French Stewart.
Posted by Jonny Ashley on July 7th, 2012I don’t think they need another hero really. Spider-Man kinda feels like a separate thing now anyway. If Whedon is doing the second one as well, then I’d be game for anything he can dream up though.
Posted by patrik on July 7th, 2012Jonny Ashley: Close but no cigar. French Stewarts the new Hulk.
Posted by Kasper on July 7th, 2012Spiderman should’nt even be in the Avengers Comic.
Posted by Markus Krenn on July 8th, 2012Maybe there should be some Avengers in The Amazing Spider-Man 2? At least that way the Parkerverse wouldn’t blow that much…
Posted by TheCorey on July 8th, 2012I say yes, they all live on the same freaking universe why not add dare deveil the ff4 and spidey all in the next movie there all new yorkers living like footsteps away from each it only makes sense for them to cross over now and then like the comics.
Posted by paulq on July 8th, 2012This new Spider-Man is so bad I don’t want him anywhere near the Avengers, but whatever. A different director might make better use of this shitty version of Parker.
Posted by Goon on July 8th, 2012@Markus
“Spiderman should’nt even be in the Avengers Comic.”
He’s been in the Avengers comic for years though. The guy that’s been the main Avengers writer for the better part of the last decade, Brian Michael Bendis, had been writing Ultimate Spider-Man for years before that, so if anyone can write a good Avengers book with Spidey in it, it’s him, and I think he’s been some sort of consultant on the latest wave of Marvel universe films. If they’re ever able to incorporate movie Spidey into the movie Avengers, I’m sure it will be VERY well taken care of.
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on July 8th, 2012Meh, spiderman kinda sucks lets be honest here. I still gotta see the new movie, and I’m dreading it. I used to LOVE spiderman, but i’ve been so dissapointed with his transition to the big screen. I’ll give this movie a shot but let the avengers do their own shit without spiderman, he would just complicate it imo.
Posted by mark on July 9th, 2012Spider-Man has occasionally worked with other teams, but seems more appropriate as a loner superhero. In fact, very early on, he worked with the Fantastic Four, and they offered him membership. Even there have been examples of him being in with other teams, it just seems to damp his personality a bit. He doesn’t seem like a great team player. Also, his powers are fairly weak compared to other heroes out there. I think he would pale too much if he was constantly being included in teams with much more powerful members. Then again, he’s more powerful than Captain America, Hawkeye, and Black Widow.
Posted by Maopheus on July 9th, 2012Although I loved the new spider-man film and the idea of seeing Garfield interacting with the avengers is just unreal, I don’t know if these two universes are going to mesh well. First of all, once you put spidey in that universe, you make things so complicated, aliens, mythical creatures, super soldier serums, Stark industries and other plot threads are now merged. Loki’s army destroyed manhattan, wheres the mention of this in Spider-man? Did spider-man take place before? Why wouldn’t shield be interested in Connors, or Oscorp’s cross-genetic research? But if they can find a way to intertwine this while remaining true to the characters and the story, then im in.
Posted by Antony Packer on July 9th, 2012I agree with one of the earliest post how they can’t be all integrated together since there all in the same city country and planet. I get they have contract issues and stuff (money I don’t get though), but it pisses me off when only one person or a small group of people save the earth. Like fantastic four 2 was stupid the entire earth was going to be destroyed and yet no super hero except for the four show up that’s ridiculous. X men first was cool to see wolverine cameo though, but don’t like how he was only in x men because wolverine is an old guy he should have cameoed in captain America too. Going on about spidey though, it would be cool for him to be in it, but don’t think Garfield would work well with the avengers, but it would be better see other core heroes from the group like black panther and ant man
Posted by Baron on July 12th, 2012Yeah, he should but he won’t. It would be proof that Marvel and the others can work together for the good of nerdom everywhere which they can’t.
Posted by Max on July 12th, 2012One of the brilliant things that Marvel did before putting the Avenger’s on the big screen is that they laid intricate stepping stones by making references to other superheroes in their movies. Before they’d be able to put Spiderman into the Avenger’s (although I would love to see some new faces) they have to be able to see how he would interact with them, would he be shy or humble? Or excited and willing to be a part of the team. Yes his powers are a little “weak” compared to powerhouses like Hulk, Iron Man and Thor. But if we set aside some of the cinematic errors Marvel has made with Spiderman, the thought of a wise-cracking teenage superhero who brings something new to the table and imagining him swinging alongside the Avengers rushing into battle, it kind of makes your inner nerd squirm with happiness. I’d be happy to watch Avengers 2 whether or not Spiderman is in it, although I’d like to see how they would incorporate him into the team, like I said before, I’d love to see some new faces maybe Black Panther, Ant-Man or Namor, maybe?
Posted by Saul on July 12th, 2012I’d like to see the look on their faces when Captain America and Johnny Storm meet…
Posted by Porter on July 12th, 2012Avengers 2 needs Garfield as Spider-Man, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine & Hale Berry as Storm
Posted by mike on July 12th, 2012I think until Spider Man grows up a little, he should stay out of the Avengers for more than a cameo.
Posted by Phill on July 13th, 2012I prefer the six villians
Posted by Spider MEX on July 16th, 2012spidey has no business being in any avengers movie! i know he was an avenger at one point but there were many others long before him that deserve their time to shine!! including black panther, vision, wasp, ant/giant man (wasp and antman should’ve been in the first one they were there before cap was). scarlet witch not so much especially since fox has the rights. and if sony peeks its little nose into marvels affairs it will be ruined, they’ve ruined enough comics for me.
Posted by munkeynuttzz on July 16th, 2012I say yes. It would be nice to see more crossovers AND new characters as well. I heard there would be new people for the next Avengers film anyway, so why not include Spidey? It’d be nice to see more characters play off of each other.
Posted by m on July 17th, 2012i think spiderman would be good but would want to in the Avengers 2 would be wolverine
Posted by carlos on July 18th, 2012Man what if Christopher Nolan did all the Marvel movies? holy shit.
Posted by Brando on July 19th, 2012What’d be great is a quick cameo before featuring Spider-Man in A2
Example: in the upcoming Captain America – The Winter Soldier (since IM3 is mostly in China and Thor2 is going to be away from Earth..), you have Captain America fighting a villain of some sort, no details…
And then something happens, no shield, enemy about to strike.
POOF – face full of webbing, captain america punches said enemy in the face, turns around, sees a red/blue figure crawling on the side of a building
Zooms to Spider-Man, removes the bottom of his mask to reveal his mouth (thus proving it’s really Garfield and not a stand-in)
“Eeeeeverybody gets one…”
*zips away on his webs*
Later on in A2, big troubles, original avengers are there but need as much as help as they can – Cap remembers Spider-Man, Nick says he knows him and a few others.
Posted by George on July 19th, 2012There ya go, new Avengers…
Also it’d be pretty interesting to tie-in Ant-Man into A2 in similar fashion (perhaps with quick flashbacks of Ant-Man, in tiny form, helping the Avengers during other past events without them even noticing… under Nick Fury’s orders perhaps?)
Posted by George on July 19th, 2012If anything, The Sensational She-Hulk should appear in an “Avengers” sequel BEFORE Spider-Man does. I’m not saying she should be in “Avengers 2″, though.
She still needs her proper introduction in a sequel to “The Incredible Hulk”. Then perhaps she can show up in “Avengers 3″. THEN we can talk about The Amazing Spider-Man appearing as an Avenger, in my opinion.
Perhaps The Sensational She-Hulk AND The Amazing Spider-Man can BOTH appear in “Avenges 3″.
Posted by Byron on July 20th, 2012Hmm..isn’t this question moot until Marvel Studios gets the rights to Spider-Man back from Sony Pictures, if ever?
Or at least until Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures decide collaborate on such a project, if ever?
Posted by Byron on July 20th, 2012I think it’s a great idea, simply because I just really want them to bring all (or at least a fair number) of the Marvel characters into the same universe just like they did in the comics.
Posted by William on July 22nd, 2012I think Andrew Garfield could fit in perfectly with them. I think he has the humor down and could fit in with Robert Downey Jr. Like the annoying lab rat kid trying to help out with a annoyed Tony Stark.
But I think it would be cool if they went with the story line where Spiderman is mutating into an actual spider and he goes to Professor Xavier of the X-men for help. And did crossed those 2 over. I think that could be awesome.
Posted by Aaron on July 22nd, 2012I would probably like to see tobey as spidey with the rest of the avengers.
Posted by gel on July 24th, 2012I would love to know who the second villain is going to be in the Amazing Spider Man series before anything. But with that said, I think as many Marvel characters are as necessary as possible to give THANOS his true value of a villain, especially if he obtains the Infinite Gauntlets.
Posted by Will on July 26th, 2012welll…… I personally think that Hawkeye,Ant Man and Black Panther can’t compete with our amazing Spiderman…
Posted by Great Ankit* on July 31st, 2012So, I think….whether there is ant man ..Black Panter or any other…there should and should be Andrews Garfield as Spiderman in Avengers 2……
No, not this version. There is no link with shield knowing this is the alternate storyline where his father works for oscorp and not for S.H.I.E.L.D.
Posted by Jesse on August 1st, 2012It would have been cool to see but i still would be anoyed a bit just like any other comic book fanatic
The Spiderman movie rights are not owned by Sony or Marvel, so why even bother trying to speculate on a cross over? O.o
Posted by wk13 on August 1st, 2012I think it would work really well. They’ve teamed up in the comice, it maked senseto bring it ti the films. Sony and Marvel could split the production costs between them saving both compaies money ad it would make a lot of money for both studios. Seems logical to me.
Posted by KinghtWay on August 2nd, 2012yah they definately should put spiderman in the avengers 2, cuz if they did it’d be my favorite movie of all time!!!!!
Posted by purple on August 7th, 2012I think the Tobey Maguire Spiderman would be a better fit, since he didn’t join the Avengers until he was an adult. At least make a couple more Amazing Spiderman movies before including him in the Avengers. Maybe not the second Avengers, but maybe the third or something.
Posted by Sloth on August 8th, 2012For all of you saying spiderman powers are a weak compared to hulk Thor and iron man. Your wrong, in the comics a robot spiderman destroys all of the avengers, then the real spiderman and defeats the robot. That means he’s stronger than all of the avengers.
Posted by Luis Martinez on August 19th, 2012Spider-man can’t be in the avengers…. The rights are owned by fox and Disney owns the rights to the others!
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