Film Junk Podcast Episode #344: Immortals and The Human Centipede 2
0:00 – Intro
2:15 – Headlines: Billy Crystal to Replace Eddie Murphy at the Oscars
9:30 – Review: Immortals
50:10 – Review: The Human Centipede 2
1:08:05 – Other Stuff We Watched: Four Days in October, June 17, 1994, Straight Outta L.A., Tabloid, The Kids in the Hall: Brain Candy, Teen Wolf, Life’s Too Short
1:22:05 – Junk Mail: Tom Six vs. Rob Zombie, Rebuying an Entire DVD Collection on Blu-ray, Movies that Got Better or Worse Because of the Sequel
1:32:55 – This Week’s DVD Releases
1:36:50 – Outro
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a short one.
Posted by rjdelight on November 14th, 2011i’ll say
Posted by anonymiss on November 15th, 2011jay is a hero for coming in at the last minute to praise immortals. i hated a lot of immortals, but i still had a great time and loved most of the visuals
Posted by mike on November 15th, 2011Hoping its short because you guys recorded the next Star Wars episode as well
Posted by Adamau on November 15th, 2011Short but sweet. Great episode, guys!
Posted by Kasper on November 15th, 2011If you’re still stuck for something to review next week you could do a lot worse than the Aussie thrillers “The Square” and “Animal Kingdom”. Two of the best films I saw this year and I’m surprised they have only been mentioned in passing on the podcast. Also random stuff to check out… Dead man’s shoes by Shane Meadows and L La Land starring Marc Wootton.
Posted by Jonathan on November 15th, 2011^should read La La land
Posted by Jonathan on November 15th, 2011Haven’t gotten through the entire episode yet, but if you’re looking for a film to review next week, I highly recommend you check out The Skin I Live In
Posted by Nat Almirall on November 15th, 2011I going to have to agree with Jay on this one. I like Immortals more than 300 and the rest of the recent swords and sandal movies. It’s not a great movie but its really entertaining.
Posted by Gord on November 15th, 2011The show left me wanting…. the Star Wars podcast! Can’t wait!
Note to Jay, I think I know what you mean regarding the movie sister crushes. Jennifer Grey in Ferris Bueller, Jean Louisa Kelly (Tia) from Uncle Buck and Dana Barron (Audrey) from NL Vacation are just a few that spring to mind for me. Big crushes on them all when I was growing up.
Posted by milath on November 15th, 2011Yeah, Sean, you can’t tease us with the Star Wars podcast and then casually mention that it won’t be out for another two weeks!
Posted by Kasper on November 15th, 2011It’s mostly in Jay’s hands right now. I don’t think the editing should take him too long but uploading it will take a while.
Posted by Sean on November 15th, 2011If you use Podomatic i believe you can upload the whole episode.
Posted by Brittany on November 15th, 2011100mins bit short!!
so Premium is now the 1# podcast?
Posted by UTG on November 15th, 2011haven’t seen immortals yet, but the bull device isn’t unique to the movie, it’s an actual torture device used in Greece and Rome back in the day
Posted by ann on November 15th, 2011Oh man I sure hope you do Breaking Dawn. I hear there is a crazy birthing scenario in the books and would like to know how they showed it in the movie.
Also wanted to note that it seems the audio skipping issue has been resolved. I have not had that happen in the past two episodes. Thanks for fixing it!
Posted by KeithTalent on November 15th, 2011I wouldn’t say the premium is now our #1 focus. We still did two full reviews on this week’s episode, we just cut out the filler.
Brittany: I looked into Podomatic but it doesn’t seem like they have the ability to pay per episode, just a premium subscription. That’s something we might look into at some point, but not right away.
Posted by Sean on November 15th, 2011One of the things I’ve always felt could be great for the podcast is some features. I know you guys used to do top-5 or top-10 lists back before I started listening, but more of those would be pretty great. Discussion about who’s the top director of the decade or just discussions of X persons filmography etc would be interesting.
Posted by csidle on November 15th, 2011For those complaining the episode is too short: how sad for you that you only get 1hr40mins of FREE FUCKING ENTERTAINMENT. How sad. *rolls eyes*
Posted by theocean85 on November 15th, 2011Yeah, this one is short, but we recorded it right after recording a 3.5 hour Star Wars podcast. It’s a big commitment and exhausting at the same time. Look at it this way…whenever there is a short podcast you know something else awesome is coming.
Posted by Greg on November 15th, 2011Sean
There’s a horror podcast i listen to call bloody good horror. And they put all their old episodes up for sale on Podomatic individually. And you don’t have to have a subscription just paypal or a credit card.
Posted by Brittany on November 15th, 2011Thanks a LOT Greg!! I BROKE THE NEWS ON THE MUNN-SHRIMP MASTURBATION!!! IT WAS ME!! FATBOLOGNA!!!! NOT COLIN!!! ME!!!
FATBOLOGNA!!!
Posted by fatbologna on November 15th, 2011…
I gotta get a profile pic for the comments section… lest I lose further credit.. wait, how do you even do that?
Thanks Brittany, I’ll take a look at what they’re doing and see if it might work for us.
Posted by Sean on November 15th, 2011Just putting in my vote for a Twilight review… it’s been a while since you guys reviewed something you knew you’d absolutely hate going into it.
Posted by Colin on November 15th, 2011fatbologna: Register at http://gravatar.com/ and do the stuff they tell you to do and voila, pic be there.
Posted by Kasper on November 15th, 2011@f.b : ) tomato, tomahto .. you ain’t got a profile pic mate you are a NOBODY ; ) : )
Posted by kyri on November 15th, 2011You should get Reed to do the Twilight review. I’m sure he likes it just to play the devil’s advocate.
Posted by Don José on November 16th, 2011Insightful that, after Jay reveals that he enjoyed ‘Immortal’, the others spend the remainder of the review backtracking or rationalising to some extent.
Posted by Scab on November 16th, 2011Oh, and clearly the ‘premium’ content is interfering with regular output.
I’d actually prefer to see the weekly show go ‘premium’ rather than see it marginalised.
Posted by Scab on November 16th, 2011Scab,
I notice that too. Which is strange because they usually don’t care what the others think. But it did seem like the other three were ready for all four of them to tear it apart, and were shocked when they heard Jay say he liked it.
Stay true to your opinions guys thats why we enjoy Filmjunk!
Posted by Chris S on November 16th, 2011#28 Having a show once a month shortened by what, an hour or so, isn’t really that big of a deal to me. It’s still over one and a half hours long.
Posted by Kasper on November 16th, 2011I actually thought I was going to be the only one sort of defending certain elements of Immortals, so when I had to switch gears and suddenly play the other side it sort of caught me off guard.
As for the regular show being marginalized, I think we made the mistake of setting a precedent for really long podcasts… longer than they need to be. I personally think that two hours is the perfect length for a show and I just hope the show can be judged for quality rather than quantity. There was no news and very little junk mail this week and no trailers we really wanted to talk about either.
Posted by Sean on November 16th, 2011Don’t worry about the length of the shows. Anyone complaining about it is pretty dumb.
Posted by bard on November 16th, 2011I’m not complaining about this one being short. But I will say that the longer the junk, the happier I am.
Guys, I absolutely need you to rip Twilight apart. Please.
Also did anybody else notice how many times Jay said “It was awesome” this episode? Jesus man! Somebody needs to make a clip of that.
Posted by mushroomyakuza on November 16th, 2011The minute I saw the others gave Immortals between 1.5 and 2.5 stars and Jay gave it 3.5 I knew it’s gonna be a show worth listening too. What a hoot. The moment Jay opened his mouth and it all spewed out like the pea soup in the Exorcist was great.
I like Tarsem and think his stuff is nothing of not interesting, but immortals have been getting mixed reviews. Almost always a sign that there is something there, something unique, despite everything.
(I watched the trailer again afterwards and I do have to agree with the others about that bunny helmet, though. I looks funny. And the speech looks like another rip-off of Aragorn’s speech from ROTK. But this is just trailer impressions).
How about a 3.5 hours premium podcast about the Twilight films? Seriously, though, I must admit it’s an easy target. I would rather you guys just reviewed real movies. Harry Potter review wasn’t the same, I think you gave it an honest shot. But Twilight is beyond salvation.
Posted by Lior on November 16th, 2011How about an 8 hour premium podcast dissecting the harry Potter films in excruciating detail?
Posted by Colin on November 16th, 2011@Scab, @Chris S:
For the record, I don’t recall doing any backtracking after Jay revelaed he liked it. My opinion of films may be a little less articulate than the other three, but I did not backtrack.
Posted by Greg on November 16th, 2011Okay, okay… My opinons are a lot less articulate than the other three.
Posted by Greg on November 16th, 2011Frank failed me on this podcast. His addition to the team helps bulk up the film loving, film analyzing, film debating that the original three sometimes lacked. Get in there Frank! Get messy with Jay! Love him or hate him, Reed is the only one with the balls to take Jay on, period.
Posted by rus in chicago on November 16th, 2011Colin: I’m thinking an 8 hour premium Harry Potter podcast that is free but you can only download if you can prove that you’re not a Harry Potter fan.
Posted by Sean on November 16th, 2011^^^^ lol. Would be pretty funny.
Length: Fine. More is more, but this works. It’s only human to put a 6hour limit to the podcasting sessions.
I agree that sometimes people don’t take Jay on as much as I would, but this wasn’t one of the examples. There’s only so much debate you can get out of “this and that was awesome” vs. “I was expecting more creativity”. It was entertaining to hear a disagreement for once!
Posted by Henrik on November 16th, 2011Has Frank read the books? Would be interesting if one of you did, they´re pretty awesome. At least from book 3 and onwards.. Maybe that would be a nice future gift for your kid Sean? =) Anyway, the books are way better than the movies.
Immortals was ok. Some cool eyecandy, like all the stuff with the gods. Helmets and all.. Not as good as 300 though.
Posted by patrik on November 16th, 2011I think you guys were thinking of the Asian remake of the also Asian “A Better Tomorrow”.
If you ask me, “Iron Eagle 2″ hurt “Iron Eagle” pretty badly by dispatching Doug Masters in the opening moments. Gee, glad he overcame all thos ridiculous
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on November 16th, 2011Sorry, cut myself off.
Anyway, yeah, good thing he survived everything in the first one just to get popped in the opening credits of the sequel. I think most sequels that do that, that ditch the hero from the previous film right away, automatically knock the importance of the events of the first film down a notch.
Posted by Planbfromouterspace on November 16th, 2011@sean, No one will download it then..
Posted by kyri on November 16th, 2011The way I worded my point was perhaps a bit hyperbolic, but I don’t think it’s ’stupid’. There’s definitely a need to ensure the premium content doesn’t harm the weekly podcast that has made Film Junk popular.
Posted by Scab on November 17th, 2011Before we started doing the ‘What We Watched’ segment all of the Film Junk podcasts we’re about 90 mins long. This episode is Film Junk Retro. Embrace it.
Posted by Greg on November 17th, 2011I think the “What We Watched” segments are what makes the show, because everybody and their brother will do reviews of the week’s big film, and sometimes they’ll mix it up with some related discussion about similar films/other films in the series, but how often is something like ESPN’s 30 For 30 a recurring theme in THOSE podcasts?
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on November 17th, 2011@Greg:
The issue isn’t really with the show’s length, but with the precedent set that the weekly podcast will come ’second best’ to producing premium content. There are many examples of people cutting off their noses to spite their face and losing sight of what made them popular in the first place.
I’m in no way criticising – and it’d be insulting for me to presume that you guys haven’t got your eye on this already – but because I enjoy the show as much as I do I thought it was a point worth making.
Posted by Scab on November 18th, 2011“The issue isn’t really with the show’s length, but with the precedent set that the weekly podcast will come ’second best’ to producing premium content.”
If the Immortals/Human Centipede episode was 2.5 hours long you wouldn’t be making this ridiculous comment. So, clearly it has to do with the length.
It was a slow news week, there were no decent trailers, all of us were too busy in our everyday lives to watch a lot of other films and we didn’t receive our regular amount of decent junk mails. The premium podcast had nothing to do with the length of the regular cast. It just happened to work out that way. Yes, we recorded a 3.5 hour podcast right before this one and yes, we were a little tired, but we still didn’t have a lot to talk about on the regular cast. Go find me some relevant, interesting news stories or trailers that we didn’t talk about.
Comments like this really piss me off. When nothing happens in the entertainment world or no one e-mails, the shows get shorter. Why fill shows with garbage and lower the expected quality just to make it longer?
None of us would accept that. Jay will put up a fight to eliminate junk and he’s right to do so.
I’m sorry that this show wasn’t up to your standards, but the four of us were happy to present it to you.
Posted by Greg on November 18th, 2011I’m not sure I’m challenging many of the points you’re arguing.
The impression was given that the weekly podcast was shorter because of the second Star Wars show.
I apologise for upsetting you.
Posted by Scab on November 18th, 2011I saw Immortals in Riga (Latvia)
Posted by Oskars on November 20th, 2011This movie was awesome, scene transiscions where wery good, and for a 1:30 h movie all the major character motivations where well based, and no plotting at all.
Cool little conversations with subtext.
Most kills and tortures where well thought out.
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