Film Junk Podcast Episode #339: The Ides of March and Real Steel
0:00 – Intro
10:20 – Headlines: Woman Sues Over Drive Trailer, Werner Herzog to Play Villain in One Shot, Disney to Re-Release Four More Movies in 3D, Tower Heist to Get Comcast VOD Release
33:45 – Review: The Ides of March
56:00 – Review: Real Steel
1:21:45 – Trailer Trash: Young Adult
1:26:55 – Other Stuff We Watched: Catching Hell, The Real Rocky, Halloween II, Blood Feast, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, The Innocents, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Black Sunday aka The Mask of Satan, Black Sabbath, The Blair Witch Project, The Living Corpse aka Dracula in Pakistan, Horror of Dracula, The Lion King, The Beaver, The Company Men, Pee-wee’s Big Adventure, Miracle, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Submarine, Mimic, George Harrison: Living in the Material World
2:23:00 – Junk Mail: Supporting Filmmakers You Like, The Disney Vault, LOTR Theatrical vs. Extended Editions, Fantasy Films Piggybacking on Harry Potter, Henry Rollins and Kobe Bryant, Mathematical Equation for Determining the Best Directors, Friend in Me Remix
2:57:40 – This Week’s DVD Releases
2:59:30 – Outro
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Comments (69)
That Drive lawsuit you’re talking about is just the most insanely stupid thing I’ve heard of in the film industry, and I sat through Transformers 2.
Posted by theocean85 on October 11th, 2011I’ll be paying for the premium podcasts and if anyone complains about it they can go eat a dick.
Posted by Bill Cosby on October 12th, 2011Thanks for the mention at the top of the show, guys. In case anyone wants to check out Jay’s appearance on Director’s Club, here’s the link:
http://directorsclubpodcast.com/post/11227760310/episode22
We also get into documentary filmmaking ethics as well. Jay brought a lot to the table including an in-depth discussion on Beauty Day, which rules. Thanks again for the support, guys.
Posted by Jim Laczkowski on October 12th, 2011Any podcast specials you guys put up, I’m buying!
Posted by Gord on October 12th, 2011Film Junk is my number one podcast, but I’m also a huge fan of Doug Loves Movies and can say that it is movie related. While the guests are comedians the discussion is almost always based in film. Some of the guests have told some pretty awesome behind the scenes stories.
Posted by rjdelight on October 12th, 2011I’d be willing to pay for special Film Junk podcasts, but I’m wondering about the method of payment. If you could (also) put those episodes on iTunes with a pricetag, that would be an easy and guaranteed buy from me.
Posted by Bas on October 12th, 2011I’m not so sure I can give you guys money. After all, I don’t want to be an enabler of the various sex and drug addictions the guys harbor…
Seriously though, I have no issues with purchasing some special podcasts as long as I don’t have to change my American dollars to Krugerrands or whatever you Canadians use.
I’d be even MORE interested in paying for commentaries on select movies with various configurations of you guys (and Reed/other special guests). Might be something you could consider doing sometime. Just a thought.
Posted by milath on October 12th, 2011I haven’t listened to this one all the way through yet, but I’ll agree that charging for special episodes is absolutely fine. Doing it through iTunes would be great, like the guy said above, as well as commentaries.
Posted by bard on October 12th, 2011Thanks for the feedback guys. The plan right now is to put the specials up on Bandcamp. I know that iTunes would be more convenient but it only allows fixed pricing and I’m worried that they won’t approve our content because we use clips and music from the movies that are copyrighted material.
We have kicked around the idea of doing commentaries many times but the problem is finding a movie that we all actually have an interest in talking about and making sure we are able to keep the discussion going the whole time. We also don’t want to just be another MST3K rip-off just making fun of the movie, we would want to actually bring something else to the table.
Posted by Sean on October 12th, 2011Do you know how much you’re wanting to charge for them?
Posted by bard on October 12th, 2011We’re still discussing that… we want to try to make the price flexible so that people can pay what they feel it is worth.
Posted by Sean on October 12th, 2011I’d pay for special podcast for sure.
Posted by Jersey Jason on October 12th, 2011I’m all about paying for my favorite podcast too and especially grateful for any bonus episodes.
Lastly, everyone should check out that documentary CHECKING HELL, that Greg mentioned. It’s really fuckin good, and I’m not just saying that being in Chicago and having witnessed firsthand all the crazy shit that went down with the Bart-man.
Posted by Jim Laczkowski on October 12th, 2011Well maybe not having *everyone* participate for every movie commentary would help cut out some of the agreement issues?
I can’t speak for everyone, of course, but I wouldn’t be looking for anything particularly funny/scripted/MST3k-like. Just being able to sync up a movie and listen to the regular discussion you guys have about a film as it runs would be sufficient for most fans I would think.
Obviously it’s up to what you guys wanna do in the end, and I’ll likely be purchasing whatever you put up, commentary or no.
Oh, but if you’re looking for additional moneymakers… a full album of kick-ass 80’s movie music as sung by Jay… That’s a license to print money right there.
Posted by milath on October 12th, 2011If they made a Battleship movie based on nothing, why wasn’t this shit called “Rock ‘em Sock ‘em Robots”?!
The Directors Club with Jay on it was pretty good.
Also, you guys should take note from what Adam Carolla did, which is an idea I think he took from someone else, which is make a DVD commentary podcast where you watch and comment on a film as its played and we just hit play when you tell us to so it works as a commentary. It’d be a cool thing to charge a small fee for that isn’t just another podcast.
Posted by Jason Martynowski on October 12th, 2011Oh, that guy just said what I said after. Irregardlessly, ya’ll should totally do that s.
Posted by Jason Martynowski on October 12th, 2011It should be noted, the woman who gets punched in the face at the opening of “The way of the Gun” is in fact Sarah Silverman. So that happened.
Also Frank, Mel Gibson has made four movies, “The man Without a Face” being the first, not that it really matters.
Posted by Jurassicalien on October 12th, 2011The chick who gets punched in the face in The Way of the Gun is Sarah Silverman.
Posted by rjdelight on October 12th, 2011hi sean,
whats the name of the song in the beginning of the podcast?
Posted by milandob on October 12th, 2011Frank and Jay singing The Lion King song made me laugh out loud very hard at work, in front of a lot of people. Thank you.
Posted by bard on October 12th, 2011@bard What do you think it was like for Sean and I? Very funny. What you don’t know is that Frank had stopped singing as Jay started and Jay motioned to him to keep going into full performance mode.
Posted by Greg on October 12th, 2011Haha, that’s great man! I wish we could have seen that. Maybe that’s another idea for money, record the shows on Jay’s camera and provide a video podcast of the normal Film Junk/Game Junk/Cantankerous episodes at a cost if people want them. I would definitely buy this one to see that!
Posted by bard on October 12th, 2011I’d pay for a Frank and Jay singing The Lion King soundtrack.
Posted by Nat Almirall on October 12th, 2011I think what makes Filmjunk the best one out there is priceless and quite hard to copy..
• the sound quality (no skype etc)
• the chemistry and the fact that you enjoy yourselves on the show like good old-buddies.
• The fact that your voices and personalities are distinguishably different yet gel together quite nice.
• Reed®™
• The fact that you don’t really give a shit
• The fact that you combine street-smart qualities with nerdiness.
Posted by kyri on October 12th, 2011@bard.. Same here.. and I was in a public library!
I ll sue your ass over this fuckers, your itunes artwork misled me!
Posted by kyri on October 12th, 2011Frank has the voice of an angel.
Posted by Henrik on October 12th, 2011The remixes continue to be fucking amazing.
Posted by Henrik on October 12th, 2011Please, make Ball Junk a real thing.
Posted by Gord on October 12th, 2011Oh yeah, might as well complete the whole Film Junk network and add Food Junk too. I’d pay for Ball and Food Junk.
Posted by Gord on October 12th, 2011Thanks for answering my questions, I’m glad it led to the first Ball Junk segment! Hilarious stuff!
Posted by bard on October 12th, 2011I’m glad to here Greg is officially a Brewers fan! Fun fact: Miller Park serves poutine.
Posted by Chris on October 12th, 2011I’d definetly pay for Film Junk Specials, as long as I feel I get my moneys worth. 5 dollars an episode sounds about fair to me.
Posted by Kasper on October 12th, 2011“I’m glad to here Greg is officially a Brewers fan! Fun fact: Miller Park serves poutine.”
Nice!
Posted by Greg on October 12th, 2011i’d pay if the artwork was a shirtless greg flexing and you update it each time as his diet progresses!!!!!!!
Posted by anonymiss on October 12th, 2011keep up the great dedication Greg!!!!!
Yup. Things just got weird.
Posted by Greg on October 12th, 2011TV Junk, Food Junk, Ball Junk… bring it!
Posted by JW on October 12th, 2011Yes, Foul Balls segment is absolutely welcome in the junk mail section. Pretty good amount of voicemails this week. The Friend in Me Remix was hilarious.
Posted by Primal on October 12th, 2011milandob: The song is Celldweller – Wings of Icarus.
Posted by Sean on October 12th, 2011Great show, guys! Jay and Frank singing from The Lion King is an instant classic moment.
I can’t wait for the special episodes. I’d also love to hear some commentaries too. Maybe some John Carpenter movies could get everyone interested?
Posted by Aaron on October 12th, 2011Bring on the remixes and mini shows i can’t get enough.
Definitely buying any shows you guys put out.
Posted by Britney on October 12th, 2011@Sean, I will also gladly pay for the special episodes.
@Jay & Frank, I laughed so hard at your Lion King serenade that I stopped breathing for a second.
@Greg, I may be a Philadelphia fan, but the Brewers rule and you are right to be rooting for them. With no Phili in the World Series they are my #2 choice.
@Falsk, I now firmly believe that Disney should rename “The Disney Vault” to “The Fucking Disney Vault.”
Posted by theocean85 on October 12th, 2011cant wait for the specials…you got my money
Posted by Cy-Ed on October 12th, 2011Just a technical note for Greg: For both stories, you mixed up “going to the World series” with “winning the world series” as the Cubs made it to the WS in 1945, and The Red Sox made it twice between 1918 and 1986 – in ‘46 and ‘67.
Not a huge deal, and doesn’t take anything away from your story…just sayin’
Posted by Anthony on October 12th, 2011Good to hear the Brewers shoutout Greg. It’s been quite the season and I’ve been fortunate enough to go to a bunch of games this season including 2 of the NLDS games, hopefully they can turn it around against the Cards.
Sidenote: gonna try and get up to Pepin to see me some Beauty Day. Bit of a drive from Milwaukee but I’m sure its worth it.
Posted by andrew on October 12th, 2011A couple of things about your Kobe Bryant/Basketball discussion as well:
@Greg: Kobe wasn’t one of the best players when he came into the league. His stats for his first 3-4 seasons weren’t good, and he came off the bench all those seasons.
@Frank: The Orlando Magic actually had the highest payroll in the league last season. Also, I know you’re talking in terms of money and big market, but in terms of success, the Knicks haven’t accomplished shit in over a decade. And their last championship came in 1973
Again…just’ sayin.
Posted by Anthony on October 13th, 2011My Knicks statement was meant to be predictive if the league does not have a hard cap (and Isiah Thomas stays away).
Still hate Kobe
Posted by dirrrtyfrank on October 13th, 2011I think the guy with the equations may have pulled his ‘objective science’ from Deadliest Warrior and after that thought came to me I started pondering who would win a Director brawl…
Posted by Rick on October 13th, 2011PS: That Lord Byron guy is horrible. I hate it when people put on a “look at me, I talk funny”-act.
Posted by Kasper on October 13th, 2011I like Lord Byron.. I am not him though, ..I wish.
Posted by kyri on October 13th, 2011Kobe rules. Bryant and Beef.
Holy shit….I just discovered our Food Junk/Ball Junk crossover episode. This will be as big as the Law & Order/Homicide: Life on the Street crossovers.
Posted by Greg on October 13th, 2011Also, Ball Junk will be a real thing once we get our 2nd studio set up. We just need to get some equipment and we’re good.
Posted by Greg on October 13th, 2011I am in support of any Lord who wants to send in voicemails to FilmJunk!
Posted by Henrik on October 13th, 2011Excellent show, especially The Lion King duet. I think charging for supplemental podcasts is a great idea, and you’ll be definitely getting my dollas. You already put out a 2-3 hr free podcast weekly, which is a massive amount of work. It only makes sense to get some compensation for the extra work that goes into the supplementals.
Posted by Andrew on October 13th, 2011Also, I would definitely listen to Ball Junk despite not caring about sports, except for a very casual interest in baseball. Hell, I listen to Game Junk and I don’t play video games.
Posted by Andrew on October 13th, 2011I actually watched Black Sabbath for the first time a few weeks ago. I was amazed how effective the final part of the trilogy was; it creeped me out and I did not expect that.
For the bonus podcasts you’ll be getting my money. I’m assuming they will be for non-major current releases and will have spoilers? I’m hoping so, but I’ll buy them regardless. Any chance of video too? I won’t watch it, but some others may be interested.
Also, for whatever it’s worth (nothing), I think the voice mails are extremely annoying, except for The Het.
Posted by KeithTalent on October 13th, 2011Forgot to say: Fuck Kobe. Hate that guy. So glad to hear Frank destroy him.
Posted by KeithTalent on October 13th, 2011I love the voicemails. If I wasn’t scared that i would sound like a moron I would do it too.
Posted by Britney on October 13th, 2011Response to Jay regarding Philip Seymour Hoffman being underused in MoneyBall and Ides of March.
I love PSH as a character actor, absolutely, and sure, he can do that, but he is SO good in both these films, I wish for him to have a bigger part. I’d say the same for Marissa Tomei and Paul Giamatti. For Ides it a case of ‘over-casting’ a movie for a middling script. For Moneyball, the film glosses over the whole ‘baseball on the field’ – I understand that choice considering what the film is about, but PSH has less than 10 minutes screentime, it’s little more than a Cameo, seems like a waste to me.
Sure if he is playing someone like John Turturro’s Jesus the Bowler in The Big Lebowski (or for that matter, Brant the Butler in TBL), that character seems to succeed in moderation. But the characters in Moneyball and Ides could have benefited the story by in there more. IMO
Posted by Kurt on October 13th, 2011Yes!! You guys rock! I thought I was the only one who liked Charlie and the Chocolate Factory over the original Willy Wonka. I never really grew up with the original, so I don’t really have a soft spot for it even though I love Gene Wilder. The remake was great and truer to the original book.
Posted by Dave on October 13th, 2011Sean, if this is a succes, do you guys plan to do this often? And if so, how often? Like once every other month, every month, orrrrrr?
Posted by Kasper on October 13th, 2011Yeah I’d say maybe once a month or so… there probably won’t be a strict schedule or anything.
Posted by Sean on October 13th, 2011when do plan on uploading the star wars one?
Posted by snugglebob on October 13th, 2011@Greg – Sorry I led to your diet cheating. :X
@Ocean – Fuck those guys… Except like the Disney whore I am I picked up the Lion King set only a week after that voicemail…
Posted by Falsk on October 13th, 2011Someone should animate this show, like the Ricky Gervais one. That would be amazing.. Allthough just filming it would be awesome too. Maybe that’s something for the specials?
Posted by patrik on October 14th, 2011The Star Wars podcast is going to be a little longer, I’m running into some issues with Bandcamp. I’ll probably have to break it up into smaller half-hour segments because of their file size restrictions.
I agree about the animation… surely there must be someone out there with a copy of Flash and hours and hours of free time on their hands!
Posted by Sean on October 14th, 2011hmm… about the animation thing.. maybe we can automate something with processing or openframeworks..
Posted by kyri on October 14th, 2011Just finished this weeks podcast. LOVED the toy story remix!!!! Listed two it 3 times in a row. Awesome job to that listener. Hats off to you sir.
Sean I’ve got my money ready and waiting. Looking forward to the Starwars podcast (and another edition of game junk.
Posted by Austin in Japan on October 14th, 2011I love the idea of the special pay podcasts. If you guys ever do a special Jackie Chan episode, I’ll donate any amount you ask for!
Posted by Rian on October 15th, 2011Oh, and I really don’t know anything at all about Bandcamp, but I know that you can purchase episodes of Tell ‘Em Steve-Dave from Bandcamp, and (if I’m not mistaken) they’re each about an hour long.
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