Film Junk Podcast Episode #326: Horrible Bosses and Bad Teacher
0:00 – Intro
9:10 – Headlines: Spike Lee to Direct Oldboy Remake, Neil Burger to Direct Uncharted, The King of Kong Remake Will Be a Mockumentary?
23:18 – Review: Horrible Bosses
48:50 – Review: Bad Teacher
1:09:30 – Trailer Trash: Jack and Jill
1:18:35 – Other Stuff We Watched: Cedar Rapids, Unknown, The Stunt Man, Princess Mononoke, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Just Go With It, Gulliver’s Travels, Penn & Teller: Fool Us, Hot Coffee, Transcendent Man, Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story
1:50:10 – Junk Mail: Mystery Melody and Character Themes, Medical Story, Time Travel Movies, Criterion Recommendations, It’s Garry Shandling’s Show, TV Shows that Grow On You, Canadian TV, Might as Well Junk
2:31:10 – This Week’s DVD Releases
2:33:00 – Outro
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Greg, I remember “It’s Your Move”. That show was awesome even though it only lasted one season, I believe. The neighbour was the same guy that played the neighbour on Married With Children (Steve Rhodes). Of course later on I discovered Jason’s sister Justine and decided I liked her better, purely for lustful reasons.
Posted by RC on July 13th, 2011Character themes in Once upon a time in the west are heavy
Posted by Beerdude on July 13th, 2011Definitely gonna make the 2 hour trek to catch Beauty Day at Possible Worlds. Niiiiiiice.
Posted by Bill Cosby on July 13th, 2011I feel the exact same way as Jay when it comes too T.V. shows. I can watch a first season of half season of a show and think it is awesome and just never come back to it. The way Jay describes it is the way I feel about it but I couldn’t put it into words before. It’s like Dr. Diamond diagnosed my problem.
Posted by Tomoo on July 13th, 2011Totoro and Porco Rosso are his best films. For Porco Rosso, watch the French dub with English subtitles.
Posted by antho42 on July 13th, 2011Greg, I, too, remember “It’s Your Move,” including Bateman’s chubby sidekick Eli who acted as his toady and had a crush on his sister. Oh the hijinks they got into! Remember their fake band of skeletons called “The Dregs of Humanity?” I didn’t even have to Google any of this, sadly, I rember it all too well.
As far as popular comedy movies go, it seems the more popular they are, the less likely I’ll like it.
Posted by Brendan on July 13th, 2011His Lupin the 3rd film (The Castle of Cagliostro) is a great action film.
Anything made by Miyazaki after Spirited Away is shit (Howl’s and Ponyo).
Ghost in the Shell has an awesome philosophical plot (except for the second film). The TV show is my favorite science fiction tv show.
Posted by antho42 on July 13th, 2011Totoro is Terry Gilliam’s favorite film:
Posted by antho42 on July 13th, 2011http://www.timeout.com/film/features/show-feature/8866/
In regards to the Timberlake discussion, have you guys endured the trailer to “Friends With Benefits”? Holy shit does that look toxic. I think the ad says “the most unbelievable movie of the year!”, which probably works on every level that they don’t want it to. I mean, I know I can’t believe that they’d remake “No Strings Attached” so soon, and I can’t believe we’re seeing another movie about pretty people fucking that can’t seem to get a meaningful relationship off the ground….until probably about 90 minutes in. I’m sorry if that’s accidentally a spoiler (or if you guys mention this later in show, as I’m only 65 minutes in).
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on July 13th, 2011You guys were a bit harsh on Horrible Bosses. I didn’t think it was horrible, and I certainly didn’t think it was consistently hysterical either. I know folks who laughed from beginning to end, and guys like you who fucking hated it. I am right in the middle of both camps. It was a bit too broad at times (much like Seth Gordon’s absolutely horrendous Four Christmases) but I find the absurdity & vulgarity in “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia” to be extremely funny. Horrible Bosses felt like a marriage between the manic style of Four Christmases with the tone of an implausible farce like “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia.”
Not for one second, was any of it meant to be taken literally or is it meant to be relate-able like Office Space. It’s not aspiring for anything outside of laughs based on broad ridiculousness – which is something I tend to really enjoy in comedies. My favorite comedy is still Wet Hot American Summer which is as broad, vulgar, perverted and absurd as comedy gets. And everyone I show that movie to… look at me like I’m insane for finding it so funny. With that said, Horrible Bosses is an extended “Sunny in Philly” episode, and I found it to be funny for about 45 minutes. It gets bogged down in plot, and Charlie Day’s shtick wears thin. But the first half made me laugh quite a bit. I still think Bridesmaids is far superior, while Bosses gets a minor 2.5 stars out of 4 or a 3/4 if I’m feeling generous. I’m not out to defend this one to the death, but I was also frowning quite a bit throughout your review. With that said, almost any episode of Film Junk makes me laugh harder than most comedies that come out these days.
Posted by Jim L on July 13th, 2011P.S You guys should consider doing bonus episodes along the lines of Game Junk. Only have the content be entirely based around Television.
TV Junk could be just as popular (or Game Show Junk!). I know you guys usually include TV Show discussion during the “What We Watched segment, but I could totally get behind a separate episode once in awhile of nothing but a review of one TV show. Maybe a Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad bonus episode in the future? Regardless, I always enjoy hearing about favorite TV shows or game shows, just as much as the film content.
Posted by Jim L on July 13th, 2011@RC & @Brendan
Glad I’m not the only one who remembers that show. I do remember it being oddly funny and having some decent writing compared to other shows in that era.
‘The Dregs of Humanity’ was a genius two part episode. I also remember Jason’s character trying to get his sister to like Eli. He put a transmitter in her cereal that just whispered Eli’s name. Classic move.
Posted by Greg on July 13th, 2011When I was looking at DVDs at Wal Mart the other day, I overheard someone say “I haven’t seen anything new from Chris Farley in a long time…”, and based on listening to them talk, I’m not 100% sure that the person knew that he’d been dead for well over a decade.
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on July 13th, 2011Aw, it was a bummer to find out the ‘drunkjunk remix’ that I poured my sweat, blood, and semen into didn’t make the cut to Junkmail but oh well! Stellar episode guys, and I’m glad everyone was able to make it to the show this week.
The new equipment sounds great. What did you end up getting? I know you’ve mentioned it before but what equipment were you using previously? I had bought an Zoom H4N not too long ago and it has kinda turned me into an audiophile.
As for the relocating, Sean, you’re not getting kicked out of your own basement are you? …Too much junk love not enough trunk love?
Posted by Joe on July 13th, 2011Does anyone else think that Colin Ferrell’s forehead on the Horrible Bosses poster makes him look like he’s a midget? Speaking of that, Peter Dinklage would have been good casting…
Posted by PlanBFromOuterSpace on July 13th, 2011I like Charlie Day on Sunny as well, but in Horrible Bosses it didn’t work, and I’m not quite sure why. May be because the rest of the characters aren’t as despicable as they are in Sunny or interesting, for that matter.
As for Canadian shows, I’m surprised that Degrassi didn’t come up, or SCTV or Super Dave or Naked News for that matter.
And with character themes, Jaws comes to mind.
Finally, is the phrase “dropping the kids off at the pool” intended to mean “taking a shit”? I always thought it meant masturbating into a toilet bowl, the ejaculation being the said “kids” much in the same manner as the phrase “swallow my kids” means “ingest my semen.”
Great episode!
Posted by Nat Almirall on July 13th, 2011I love the progression of topics from Nat’s previous post.
Like always, a lot of our discussion comes at the top of our heads. There’s no prep. So, when we discuss anything there always has to be a jackass who says ‘I’m surprised you didn’t mention this’ or ‘how come there’s no love for that?’ Thanks for being that jackass, Nat. Your family will be proud.
I always thought it meant taking a shit…but your explanation makes way more sense, so now I don’t know. I don’t know who masturbates into toilets, but I can tell you I’m going to use the phrase ’swallow my kids’ as often as I can. Thanks again!
Posted by Greg on July 13th, 2011@Greg I didn’t mean it in the sense of “Oh my GOD–I can’t believe you fucking forgot so-and-so; someone should drop their kids off on your mother’s chest/rape your cat/eat a big sandwich/etc.”
Posted by Nat Almirall on July 13th, 2011“I can tell you I’m going to use the phrase ’swallow my kids’ as often as I can.”
tmi
Posted by Henrik on July 13th, 2011Terry Funk in Bad Teacher would have to be either the gym teacher or the principle where Funk would talk about his injuries and then instantaneously start screaming “FOLEY” and branding bad kids in detention with a flaming branding iron.
Posted by Steve Kasan on July 13th, 2011Either that or he gets it on with Cameron Diaz and the scene he performs a moonsault onto Diaz and the Funkster makes Diaz bleed. Not from the forehead. While screaming “FOLEY”
I can’t believe that Supermarket Sweep was a Canadian game show. I grew up on that show and always wanted to be on it. The whold show was hilarious, but man, that last run through the store is some of the best game show material ever. Grabbing the GIANT products were funny, the hidden shopping cart stickers and clues, and the necessary hurling of the turkeys and hams into the cart were incredible. This would be the show I would want to be on the most, if we’re not talking about money.
Also, that song was great, kudos to that guy.
Posted by bard on July 13th, 2011@Steve Kasan – ‘Not from the forehead’ Perfect.
@Nat – If only eating a big sandwich could associated with rage.
Posted by Greg on July 13th, 2011Does that one guy with the lower voice just hate everything?
And Charlie Day’s awesome, fuck you guys.
Posted by Anthony on July 13th, 2011More Canadian TV shows:
The Racoons
Posted by RC on July 13th, 2011You Can’t Do That on Television
Hockey Night in Canada
Red Green Show
Trailer Park Boys
Even Dory Funk would have been better in Bad Teacher. Hell, Abdullah the Butcher would have been better and he couldn’t even speak English (in the wrestling world anyway).
Posted by RC on July 13th, 2011And by “Guy with the low voice” I mean Greg. Sorry, haven’t done a good job of placing names to voices as I should.
Posted by Anthony on July 13th, 2011Talkabout 1989 classic episode http://youtu.be/TFB1KXWiEQM
Posted by Film Ape on July 13th, 2011Totoro is more like Ponyo, aimed at a young audience. Princess Mononoke is probably the most adult of Miyazaki’s films. Although not a Miyazaki movie, Whisper of the Heart is also a very good Ghibli movie, but Jay, you would probably hate it.
Posted by Hero Supreme on July 13th, 2011I forgot to put that Charlie Day is the main reason I’m not seeing Horrible Bosses. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is so unfunny and annoying, and he’s the main reason why. I have no idea how that show is so popular.
Posted by bard on July 13th, 2011I enjoy Its Always Sunny but couldnt stand Charlie in Horrible Bosses. In “Sunny…” the crew of them are together all so detestable and wrong that it works for me. Alone, not so much. So I guess that team dynamic of their annoyingness is of vital importance.
Posted by Goon on July 13th, 2011PRAISE GEE-ZUS. The first hour I’ve listened to has been life-affirming. I thought I was the only one who couldn’t stand Charlie Day. I’M NOT ALONE! THANK YOU, FILM JUNK. THANK YOU!
Posted by Falsk on July 13th, 2011Oh, and I, too, was wondering what new mixer Sean got…
Posted by Falsk on July 13th, 2011This is the new mixer we’re using:
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/1204USB.aspx
It’s not much different than what we had before except that it has a USB interface and built-in compressor.
Posted by Sean on July 13th, 2011So I guess you’re moving, Sean? I know it sounds selfish, but… will this affect the Film Junk schedule?
Haha, sorry, just had to ask!
Posted by bard on July 13th, 2011Thanks so much to the show and listener Matt for helping me figure out that mystery melody! It’s definitely Peter and the Wolf. Looked up the video on youtube and it looked very vaguely familiar. I probably watched it in music class in like 3rd grade or something. It’s crazy that that music’s been stuck in a back corner of my brain for that long and something triggered it a few weeks ago.
Posted by Jacob on July 13th, 2011Greg, “It’s Your Move”… I remember that!
Posted by Big Hungry on July 13th, 2011Youtube it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8b2WdTG1k
Holy crap…watch that clip for Bateman’s friend Eli. It’s Frank.
Posted by Greg on July 13th, 2011@Anthony: No I don’t hate everything. I like puppies. I like Marisa Tomei. I like snacks.
Posted by Greg on July 13th, 2011Greg mentioning ITS YOUR MOVE! was awesome. I guess im not the only one who remembers that show.
Posted by Hairy Larry on July 13th, 2011Frank Funk from Canadian. Love it.
Posted by projectgenesis on July 13th, 2011Can you please post the mp3 of that dude’s epic Film Junk song.
Posted by rjdelight on July 13th, 2011@Greg, apparently you also like Korn too. Some is potentially forgiven.
Posted by Anthony on July 13th, 2011I watched that It’s your move clip and even though I have never seen Frank in 3D, I honestly think that kid Eli looks exactly like him. That was insane. Also insane was that Jason Bateman apparently found his style already as a child, I seriously couldn’t help picture adult Jason Bateman doing the exact same stuff in Hancock or Up In The Air. What a freaky clip
Posted by Henrik on July 14th, 2011When Jay talks about anime, I want to punch him in his taint. Come on Sean, you have to defend better.
Posted by el ohroy on July 14th, 2011Did the voices skip a few times in this week’s show for anyone else? It happened for me. Thought Sean might want to take note of that. Could be the new mixer. *shrugs*
PS. I think the dude calling Jay “Diamond” in one of the junk mails is a reference to an older episode where Jay refers to himself as Jay Cheel Vick Diamond haha.
Posted by Napalm on July 14th, 2011I hate anime but miyazaki’s Totoro is a really good children’s film, and Grave of the Fireflies is one of the best (only?) war animated melodramas every made.
All the new ones put me to sleep…Miyazaki broke up with his screenwriter, Isao Takahata, around ten years ago and there’s something missing in the new movies. eye candy with totally incomprehensible plots.
last week you guys talked about Steve Coogan…’24 hour party people’ is awesome. really really creative.
Posted by ScottHK on July 14th, 2011Napalm: I heard some of the skipping. I’m hoping that’s just because my computer is a piece of crap, and not because the USB can’t keep up.
el ohroy: I may be a little more open-minded to anime in general, but I’m not a huge fan either.
bard: We’ll talk a little more about the move situation on the next episode, but for now we’re hoping that nothing will change.
Posted by Sean on July 14th, 2011You absolutely DO NOT have to buy a complete TV series.
Both The X-Files and Buffy have 3 episodes that I really enjoy, fortunately all within a single season. I was happy to buy that season of each show instead of being forced to buy the whole run, especially considering how long the shows ran for and how exponentially poor they got over time.
Don’t be a retard. Buy only what you will watch.
Posted by Miike on July 14th, 2011I love it when I can pick up a complete series on the cheap to make buying unnecessary sets moot. Last night for a good deal I got the entire series box set of NewsRadio, so I didnt have to debate getting the non Hartman season
Posted by Goon on July 14th, 2011Love this weeks episode guys.
Posted by Rev on July 14th, 2011Greg, I also like Snacks and Gatorade! We should be friends!
Jay, Castle in the Sky and Spirited Away are both amazing and IMHO even better then Mononoke. Both are filled with wonder and magic and highly recommended.
I’m not a huge Anime expert/buff (especially not regarding the numerous Anime TV series), but I’ve seen my share of good features. There’s other very good examples of animation and storytelling in the genre except for Miyazaki’s films. Someone mentioned the extremely touching Grave Of The Fireflies. Also, the insane Ninja Scroll comes to mind.
I believe During the Cars 2 episode there was a discussion about how Pixar or US animation studios don’t make animation for adults and how it’s an untapped potential.
Anime is the place to look for this kind of stuff.
As Beerdude mentioned above, Once Upon A Time In The West is a classic example of strong character themes in a movie’s score, and what a score it is. Once you hear Morricone’s Harmonica’s Theme or Cheyenne’s theme you will never forget them. The music is so pervasive in that classic it’s basically a character on its own.
Yeah, Degrassi is my favorite Canadian TV show – I hardly even know any other Canadian shows not to mention watching them. And I didn’t even grow up in Canada. I remember watching Degrassi Junior High and then Degrassi High back in the 80’s and loving it. It was an honest and realistic teen drama. Haven’t watched any of the newer incarnations, though. Anyway, coming to Toronto and realizing the show was filmed (and maybe still is) not far from my place was somewhat exciting.
The discussion of what you can do on TV vs. film was very interesting. I agree it’s challenging to recreate what Malick did on a TV show. But a film is a singular experience, while a TV show is a continuous one. A film can be contemplative for two hours and get away with it. Can a TV show do that for a whole season, with hardly a plot, and still keep its viewers? I’m not sure.
I for one would love to hear a Harry Potter review.
the last one was entertaining, even if it was controversial.
Posted by Lior on July 14th, 2011I’m betting Jay will enjoy ‘Porco’ the most out of Miyazaki’s stuff…
Posted by Falsk on July 14th, 2011Frank Funk sounds like it could have been a detective show in the 70s.
“Frank Funk: Private Eye”
“Peter and the Wolf” not only has a specific theme for each character, but a specific instrument assigned to each character; violin for one, oboe for another, clarinet for another, etc.
@Greg: I also like Marisa Tomei, especially in “The Wrestler” and “Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead”.
Posted by RC on July 14th, 2011I had forgotten that the alluring Caren Kaye played the mom on “It’s Your Move”.
Check her out in the 1983 movie, “My Tutor”, to see how alluring she can be.
http://youtu.be/assmEv2ceDU
Posted by RC on July 14th, 2011@RC Tomei certainly has a thing for large, sweaty men. Seinfeld nailed it.
Posted by Nat Almirall on July 15th, 2011I’m not the biggest anime fan in the world, but I would highly recommend checking out Cowboy Bebop (series and the movie). It’s awesome and definitely the best anime ever made IMO. If you don’t like that then I would not bother with any other ones. The music alone makes it a must-see even for anime haters
The new Evangelion movies are also pretty great.
Posted by Vikke_AJ on July 15th, 2011Greg should check out “Luther”.. You´re wrong about Dexter though, amazing television..
Posted by patrik on July 15th, 2011Can you please post the mp3 of that dude’s epic Film Junk song.
Posted by rjdelight on July 16th, 2011You guys could take the time to edit your podcasts, they are far longer then they need to. Sure you have alot to say and the “derivative” discussions and brief references are interesting, but it’s…
hum…
you know…
a bit…
how should I say…
annoying…
to hear pauses…
and long silences where you think of stuff to say.
Or even worse: A question is asked, long pause before answer, and then something like “it was ok.” comes out, dragging there for too long before you actually take off.
Love the podcast, love you guys, but I think you could improve alot.
Posted by Diogo Louro on July 17th, 2011He is a disturbing example of an obscure Canadian game show that would surely have Dateline’s Chis Hansen hot on the host’s trail.
http://youtu.be/UiA5Z0czjyI
Posted by RC on July 19th, 2011@ Diogo Louro
You’re nuts.
Posted by rjdelight on July 19th, 2011#59 You’re wrong, the show is great as it is. No other opinions are valid.
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