Agreed. Portman gave a great performance. The academy didn’t give her an Oscar because of the dancing.

I AM SHOCKED.

RE: Who cares?

I was under the impression the criticism here isn’t regarding the movie itself, but of the performer. I don’t think people upon hearing this story would go and re-think about how good the movie is, but rather, judge the actress. It’s natural for people to care about giving credit where credit is due, and feel indignant. That includes Sarah Lane and Natalie Portman.

Don’t care. I would say who gives a shit, but apparently a lot of sad, sad people do.

It certainly doesn’t change the film and shouldn’t change how the film is perceived, but I think it is more sad to be happily duped by a Hollywood campaign. As TheBlueCrow says, people care about giving credit where it is due.

“I don’t care if you dance. But your gonna eat that pussy bitch…” -Darren aronofsky

Fuckin’ typical chick bullshit. Jealous bitches need to stop…

So are the people who are saying ‘who cares’ (and accept Sarah Lane’s claim) essentially saying they don’t mind about being lied to?

“Portman’s fiancee and choreographer on Black Swan, Benjamin Millepied, recently REFUTED any claims that Lane’s involvement was so large, saying that 85% of the dancing is Portman. Lane says that producer Ari Handel told her specifically NOT to talk to the press about her work on the film, even though there wasn’t any stipulation about that in her contract.”

I thought Black Swan was a great flick, and when I had gotten word that she did most of her dance stunts, I thought that made the film seem even cooler (considering what a huge Portman fan I am). But if what Lane is stating is true, then I can see how she would be pissed, for not getting the credit she rightfully deserved (as a TRUE dance performer); being told by the producer to keep her mouth shut to the press, and even more so, having to deal with Portman’s fiance/choreographer denying her statement(assuming Lane actually did do most of the stunts). In my opinion, it does change things a bit. Not for the story of the film, but perhaps for What’s true and what isn’t.

Of course there are those who will say, “who gives a shit? It’s not the stunt doubles job to be noticed; only to be a hired tool, take the money, and to shut the fuck up to the press, about the truth.”
(more or less)

I disagree… If Lane did most of those awesome dance moves, I feel she should have been recognized for it (career wise). Covering it up just to make Portman look even better than she already does, would be pretty shitty, to the “smaller entertainer”

It would almost be like finding out that 85% of
Elvis Presley’s performances were lip synced by a “talented nobody”; or 85% of Jet Li’s movie stunts were actually done by some “no named martial arts master”. I think it possibly would change the way we see the performers, that we paid to see; a bit.

Not giving a shit about who did what in a film, is “whatever”.

But to those that do give a shit (like Lane “the real dancer”, or any fans of hers) especially if there’s a cover up involved… It’ll most likely be a big deal.

I say, after Portman spits out her baby, her & Lane should battle it out on stage in front of a video carmera
(choreographed by Millepied, but not produced by Ari Handel of course) lol. Lets get this shit settled once and for all, and see who’s lyin.

Whether or not she did the part doesn’t make the movie any better or worse.

However I think considering all the times this film was screened in front of actual ballerinas, and they described her acting as ‘passable’ rather than true pro work, I don’t see why Lane would now want to take credit.

Likewise, Rourke put in a lot of work to play the Wrestler, but his actual wrestling isn’t high caliber by any means, it is meant to look good in editing and get the job done for the film.

On top of this, I trust Aronofsky’s and Portman’s integrity, so from where I stand I’d need more than just Lane’s word. I can believe that Lane THINKS its mostly her on screen the same way I believe Rebecca Eckler THINKS her shitty book was ripped off to make Knocked UP. I just don’t think that makes it actually true.

Sarah Lane did NOT direct, edit, or create any fx in post for Black Swan. How the hell would she know? This is as silly as Mocap being call “performance capture” or people griping that Julia Robert’s body in Pretty Woman was Donna Scoggins.
After all the editing and post production is over and a final cut agreed on what matters is how well you were entertained or if you enjoyed the film.
It doesn’t matter who performed the stunts for an action star or who sang the background track for an actor in a drama.They all receive a credit and a paycheck.In return we get to be entertained.

@TheBlueCrow – I haven’t even seen the movie, so me being biased due to love for the film or whatever isn’t really the case, I just think that people are getting all worked up over nothing.

I’m in the, “who cares” camp as well. I loved the movie Black Swan. I didn’t love the movie AND the marketing campaign. You can’t be lied to if your not watching/listening to that bullshit.

This just in, turns out Portman didn’t actually have feathers coming out of her skin. It was done with FX. Take away the Oscar.

Portman isn’t even her birth name, so it’s not really a surprise the performance isn’t all her either. There’s a Hong Kong movie where Jet Li protects a buffoon movie actor that is a parody of Jackie Chan, I believe it was called High Risk directed by Wong Jing. Li is the bodygaurd of the actor and secretly performs the famous actor’s stunts since he is no longer capable.

I would’ve cared had there been absolutely no money in it for anybody, had it been a project of pure love and devotion and had it been shown only on special occasions in museums of cinema… Hell, most of Mickey Rourke’s full body shots were done in the Wrestler with the double Armond Cerere. The famous shot where we see the ram jam for the first time had Mickey’s face glued onto Armond as well. Either Sara Lane was kind enough to wait until the theatrical run was over, or they just stopped giving her money. And in both cases it’s alright with me.

Oh. And the shark in ‘Jaws’ didn’t do all of it’s own swimming…

This would not be happening if the studio hadn’t endlessly hyped Portman’s dance study and the lie that she did almost all the dancing herself. What the heck. She should have been honest — she did the acting, Lane did the dancing.
Ballet routines demand knows that it takes years to master them. In no way could Natalie Portman have become even marginally proficent in one year of study no matter how many hours a day she worked.Why can’t they just give the dancer credit and recognition? Instead they have to denigrate the entire profession of dance by claiming that any old actress can take a few lessons and be as talented as a professional athlete who has worked on her sport for over 20 years!

I saw this movie this weekend and it was “FABULOUS”

Makes me love Natalie Portman all the more. Seeing this movie and just loving it also makes me even more sad that Aronofsky isn’t going to be doing a Wolverine movie.

I can imagine how all of the comic book fans that saw this movie and then heard that he was doing a Wolverine film must have felt when they heard he was backing out of the project for whatever reason