Film Junk Podcast Episode #305: Enter the Void and The King’s Speech
0:00 – Intro
7:15 – Headlines: 2011 Oscar Nominees, Kevin Smith to Self-Distribute Red State, Henry Cavill is Superman
25:55 – Review: Enter the Void
54:15 – Review: The King’s Speech
1:22:10 – Trailer Trash: Jackass 3.5
1:25:25 – Other Stuff We Watched: Don’t You Forget About Me, Forty Guns, The Visitor, Il Mercenario, No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson, Muhammad and Larry, The One Armed Executioner, Nostalgia for the Light, The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On, Beverly Hills Cop, Beverly Hills Cop II, Buffalo 66, Talhotblond
2:07:40 – Junk Mail: Mixing DVD and Blu-ray, Combining Collections with a Roommate/Spouse, Alphabetizing Rules for DVDs, Name That Movie, German Movies, Morgan Spurlock, Female Directors, US Comedian Equivalent of Ricky Gervais, Why Film Podcasts are Poorly Informed
2:49:40 – This Week’s DVD Releases
2:52:00 – Outro
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Comments (74)
Three dicks down for Enter the Void.
Posted by Juan Costrada on January 31st, 2011You can search by genre using iCollect. You just have to make sure that everything is properly labeled, which is time consuming. Just searched documentaries on my iPhone and The Changeling and Ghost Town were listed. Got to do some revising.
Posted by Film Ape on January 31st, 2011Jay: to solve your issue with the app, you can hit search on the menu bar at the bottom, then hit genre (or any other thing like Director or whatever) then pick your genre and it will bring up every film classified under that genre. It’s a few extra finger pushes, but it works. Helps you see if anything is incorrectly classified too, so you can make adjustments.
I’ll be back later to talk about Enter The Void because I loved the film and no, I do not do drugs.
Posted by KeithTalent on January 31st, 2011agree with everything Jay said about Enter the Void, but I probably liked it even less. For me it was downhill after the ‘regular’ drug trip scene, and I found the sex scenes not just boring, but also laughable
Posted by Goon on January 31st, 2011I was very disappointed , i felt that you guys had done no real research into the loves of the characters in The Kings Speech. Also he Colin firth character suffers from stammering not stuttering. A stammer which is something I had growing up is very detrimental on your emotional and physical state and yes you don’t know you are doing it until it is pointed out in some cases. This movie was very inspiring especially to a fellow stammer , also Sean marbles are still used as in speech therapy. Also jay when you stammer your physical muscles in around your mouth do change.
Another thing i had a problem is is when people write off movies as getting an Oscar because he is playing a disabled person. This story was awesome and and shows the emotional suffering people go through.
Posted by SurlyMona on January 31st, 2011The Movie is “Raw Courage” as I knew it then but it is showing up as “Courage” on imdb. It is about runners in the desert that get attacked by a militia group..
It is actually pretty good as I remember it. This is the first film I saw with Ronny Cox.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087092/
Posted by BigHungry on January 31st, 2011Interesting, thanks for pointing out that there is a difference between a stammer and a stutter. It might have helped if the movie made this distinction more clear, although I suppose it’s possible that it is common knowledge and we’re just completely ignorant.
Posted by Sean on January 31st, 2011In regards to Kings Speech and the typical things it does… I think I dont look at “oscar bait” movies any differently than i do genre movies and can overlook/forgive falling into certain tropes, so long as they are done well enough that i dont roll my eyes or get taken out of the film by how obvious they are doing it.
I think Kings Speech passed the test, if barely, in regards to most of those usual story cliches.
Posted by Goon on January 31st, 2011I find it surprising you didn’t find the acting exceptional in The King’s Speech. Once again, Filmjunk fails to even acknowledge good art direction or costuming when its apparent.
Enter The Void is sh*t, the Avatar comparison is a little harsh as I’m convinced Enter The Void was a 1 draft script at best (maybe improvised). Cameron’s film might be basic but he writes a tight script with character development and plot. Void has nothing
Nice discussion on the cataloging of movies….could listen to ramblings like this forever…
Posted by rus in chicago on January 31st, 2011I’m eager to listen to this episode especially to hear everyone’s thoughts on Enter The Void because I really loved it.
I can see why people wouldn’t, cyz it’s definitely a visual experience more than an emotional one that has a strong story. It’s a loose adaptation of the Tibetan Book of The Dead, and the way it ends was strangely life-affirming. On a psychological level, I liked the un-subtle Freudian touches & voyeuristic cinematography. I don’t do drugs, but I got high from watching this
Posted by Jim The Movie Freak on January 31st, 2011The costumes were cool, but I guess you kind of take them for granted in movies like this. I do remember a few of the outfits standing out as being particularly interesting. Great mise en scene though!
Posted by Sean on January 31st, 2011It isn’t very fair to judge ENTER THE VOID until you’ve seen it on a massive screen with big sound. DVD and BLURAY are not kind to this movie (ditto Irreversible, but in this case, much, much, much more.)
Posted by Kurt on January 31st, 2011“It isn’t very fair to judge ENTER THE VOID until you’ve seen it on a massive screen with big sound.”
I think you could say this about practically any movie. Especially comedies.
Posted by Jay C. on January 31st, 2011Perhaps. But I’m not talking ‘with an audience’ for EtV. It is the overall presentation.
Much like seeing 2001: A Space Odyssey in 70mm on the big screen was akin to a religious experience, Enter The Void is akin to the ultimate carnival (carnal?) ride. The impact is greatly enough magnified by the big screen treatment, and the 3hour commitment therein, that it would (perhaps) elevate the movie for many people. Of course those who hate it are going to hate it either way, but those on the fence, leaning towards ‘like’ get the full package in the cinema.
Posted by Kurt on January 31st, 2011I’m probably more on the fence than a ‘hater’, but I’m not sure if the in-theatre experience would’ve changed that. Perhaps. Probably more along the lines of bumping it from a 2/4 to a 2.5.
Posted by Jay C. on January 31st, 2011Enter the Void and The Kings Speech…
Posted by berserker01 on January 31st, 2011I was dreading a very boring podcast this week, but you guys did an awesome job. Great show.
I saw Ip Man 2 yesterday. Any chance of a Film Junk review of that one, or even the first one? Maybe throw Reed in there while your at it.
being on a larger screen will do nothing for the lost opportunity this style and idea presented. the execution, story ideas and characters are sophomoric at best. Its like A Space Odyssey with the cast of The Jersey Shore.
Posted by rus in chicago on January 31st, 2011@Kurt
Thanks for bringing up this point. I intended to mention it on the show last night.
I concur that ETV would be an extremely different experience in a theatre, for better or worse. I also really like the carnival ride comparison.
Posted by Frank on January 31st, 2011I’m amazed that Lana Wachowski didn’t come up when you were talking about female directors.
Posted by Colin on January 31st, 2011Actually she did… it may have been difficult to hear, but Frank gave a shout out of sorts to Lana.
Posted by Sean on January 31st, 2011berserker01: I’ve been meaning to check out the first Ip Man since it’s on Netflix in Canada, but I don’t think we’ll be reviewing either of them on the show. Martial arts movies are not our forte.
Posted by Sean on January 31st, 2011“being on a larger screen will do nothing for the lost opportunity this style and idea presented.”
This. I saw it on the big screen and still hated it even more than Jay did, as did quite a few critics.
I actually though did not watch the well-loved opening credits. there was a pre-film warning of nautious strobe effects, and considering i just had food poisoning a couple days earlier I turned my head away.
Posted by Goon on January 31st, 2011I really wanted to re-watch it before commenting, but my blu-ray has been delayed for some reason.
I loved Enter The Void. Something about it grabbed me and I was along for the ride the entire time.
I actually found the relationship between the siblings to be quite touching and when the brother was floating around, the repetition of certain story elements and visuals really hammered that relationship home for me; the sense of loss and detachment really came through.
As for the overuse of stylistic, camera elements, that is true, but for me it almost felt like a roller coaster ride. I would throw my hands up and “whoa, we’re going down the sink” then “whoa, we’re going into a vagina” and it never got old for me.
Who knows, maybe it was just the frame of mind I was in, being in my favourite theatre, but I found the film to be quite beautiful. Of course I can see why people would dislike it as it’s very atypical, but it was right up my alley. I’m kind of blathering, so I’ll shut up now.
Great show. You guys could do an eight hour show on movie cataloguing, that stuff was awesome. I’m super anal with my collection as well.
Posted by KeithTalent on January 31st, 2011@berserker01: Did you read my Killer Imports review of Ip Man? I thought my Killer Imports feature would fill Film Junk’s lack of martial arts info, but I guess people don’t find my reviews interesting or noteworthy, so I gave up on writing any more reviews. I saw Ip Man 2, and enjoyed seeing Donnie Yen using Wing Chun again although I was disappointed at the uninteresting story again.
Posted by Reed Farrington on January 31st, 2011I remember reading years ago that many women fell into the role of film editors during World War II after most of the male editors went overseas.
Posted by Chris on January 31st, 2011Just so people don’t think I’m crazy:
“Walter Murch, one of Hollywood’s great editors said: “Many of the editors of early films – back in the silent days – were women. It was a woman’s craft, seen as something like sewing. You knitted the pieces of film together. And editing has aspects of being a librarian, which used to be perceived as a woman’s job.”
http://filmmakerinresidence.nfb.ca/blog/?p=64
I believe I originally read this in the book “”The Conversations: Walter Murch and the Art of Editing”.
(Thanks to Sean for finding the exact quote online.)
Posted by Jay C. on January 31st, 2011That was brought up in The Cutting Edge documentary as well. Didn’t you guys just discuss that?
Posted by KeithTalent on January 31st, 2011That could also be where i heard it.
Posted by Jay C. on January 31st, 2011Reed: I’m not sure why you think people didn’t find your reviews interesting or noteworthy. If anything, your Killer Imports column was just too ahead of its time because you were reviewing movies like a year before they got a proper North American release.
Posted by Sean on January 31st, 2011Not that anyone cares but I also like Bufallo 66. Despite being as selfindulging as a 13year old facebook gyno.
Posted by kyri on January 31st, 2011Jay, completely agree with you on that last question. If you guys started to talk like a film theory class, I might shoot you.
Posted by Gord on January 31st, 2011you guys missed the opportunity to tie your favorite critic, Roger Ebert in to the Vincent Gallo talk!!!
“Then famous movie critic Roger Ebert called The Brown Bunny “the worst film in the history of Cannes.” Vincent got defensive and in return called Roger “a fat pig with the physique of a slave trader.” Roger shot back with “one day I will be thin, but Vincent Gallo will always be the director of The Brown Bunny.” After Vincent said that he had put a hex on Roger’s colon, Roger’s only response was that a colonoscopy would be better to watch than Vincent’s movie. Ouch!”
Posted by rus in chicago on January 31st, 2011JAY is more of a misanthrope rather than a misogynist..
Both Great Greek Words by the way..
Posted by kyri on January 31st, 2011To answer your question concerning Enter the Void, Sean, it has gained a bit of cult status amongst the psychedelic community, if only because it’s one of the first films to attempt to visually represent a DMT trip, often considered the most powerful psychedelic known to man.
Posted by Tricky Dick on January 31st, 2011@rus in chicago
Be sure to check out the interview I was talking about between Vincent Gallo and Howard Stern, Ebert also calls in and discusses the cancer hex. It is one of the best pieces of radio I have ever heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flUP7C4n8RI
Posted by dirrrtyfrank on February 1st, 2011Thanks for reading my question out again guys. Loving the completely anal talk about cataloging, could seriously talk all day long !! On a side note managed to catch an advanced screening of The Fighter last night, im from the UK so abit behind. Enjoyed every minute of it, totally engrossing, gonna go back and listen to your review in ep 301 again
Posted by One of the Good Looking Geeks on February 1st, 2011It’s weird that he said he is making movies for the money.. (try harder man)
also..
He really needs to come out (of the closet)
Posted by kyri on February 1st, 2011Gallo, Stern, Ebert…why are all the good reality shows undeveloped!?!?!
Posted by rus in chicago on February 1st, 2011The point of EtV is supposed to graft the profound onto the banal. The script, the foreshadowing, the shallow characters are all by design, that may not make it more palatable for many, but I do not see it as such a design flaw as you guys did.
I do consider EtV to be a rather ‘dumb’ movie, but this is hardly the point of the film, it is not aiming to be an intellectual exercise, it is supposed to be a visceral (and even aiming for viscerally boring at points with repetition). I see none of these things as a problem, because the experience is so fundamentally different than any other films I’ve seen.
Asking EtV to be more ‘normal’ or the acting to be ‘regular’ or whatever, is a foreign criticism for me.
Posted by Kurt on February 1st, 2011Exactly Kurt. The more boring, repeating and unwatchable the film is, the better… Wait, what?
Posted by Kasper on February 1st, 2011It is when you are in the throws. Who said a hypnotist waving his coin on a string is ‘thrill-a-minute-revelatory’ and EtV (for me) plays a lot like that. Not deep, but an experience nonetheless.
I’m the first to bash a movie for being dumb and spectacle, but for my money, EtV breaks enough new ground on the pure viewing experience (10x more than the 3D and spectacle of Avatar, to use Jay’s example) and I’m willing to go to bat for that, any day of the week.
Posted by Kurt on February 1st, 2011Good New Millenium German cinema: Yella, Jerichow, Head On, Soul Kitchen, Das Experiment, The Lives of Others, anything from Michael Haneke (even though he is Austrian and often directs in France, his films feel ‘german’ to me for one reason or another, but if I had to pick one, THE WHITE RIBBON), The Baader Meinhoff Complex is sort of all-over-the-place, but is pretty good nonetheless.
Posted by Kurt on February 1st, 2011Oh, and I do like GOODBYE LENIN.
Posted by Kurt on February 1st, 2011I agree and disagree with you Kurt. I applaud the “something different” quality of ETV. That “something different” quality, in turn, hurts the experience when the film doesn’t deliver in other areas.
“The script, the foreshadowing, the shallow characters are all by design”
This has to be your opinion because I think you are giving Noe way more credit (and talent) than he deserves. Most of the mistakes he does here are the same ones he’s done before. I feel he has shown little progress as a filmmaker and is clearly focused on bells and whistles rather than storytelling.
Posted by rus in chicago on February 1st, 2011And of all the German cinema you list, which is the best examples of visceral and actual storytelling – like to netflix that sh*t up!
Posted by rus in chicago on February 1st, 2011If you are looking for another application to create your own movie database there is my movie collection. http://www.mymovies.dk/products/collection-management.aspx
You can filter you movies by every genre, year and such. It is also supported by driod.
Posted by Dan on February 1st, 2011Regarding the scene in the King’s Speech with the recording of the voice, that type of therapy is used all the time. While it doesn’t work perfectly, you can get the effect the film shows. You asked why don’t they just do that in the end speech. Well there could be a few reasons. For one, it doesn’t work for everything. The familiarity of what you are saying has a lot to do with it. If your reading something for the first time the likelihood of its success is a lot smaller. Plus add the pressure of the situation and it simply doesn’t have a high chance of success. Working with students that have a stutter I can verify that Firth’s performance is quite amazing. You stated his sadness when speaking with his family seems jaded, and unrealistic. I don’t agree at all. People who have speech issues are often ashamed, even when speaking with their families. I’ve only worked with students, but I could assume speaking to your children would be even more difficult. You are not only a father, but a member of royalty, and you can’t simply sit down and read your kids a story. It seems like that would be something you’d never be able to get over. arding the scence King’s Speech
Posted by Dan on February 1st, 2011Well, Yella and Jerichow are slow-burn, but very much worth a look, they are like strange german remakes of classic american films (a haunting story and a noir) but laced with german social-politics (and not at all as boring as that sounds).
Visceral: Das Experiment , Head On.
Charmingly funny: Soul Kitchen, Goodbye Lenin
Icky, but rewarding: The White Ribbon
Stylish, biopic/historical – Baader Meinhoff Complex
Posted by Kurt on February 1st, 2011First off, let me just restate that I didn’t HATE Enter the Void…I was just really disappointed that it lost me in the last half. I was really on board for the first third. I can still appreciate the things that it does well and the fact that it at least provides an unusual theatrical experience. Having said that, for the sake of conversation:
“The point of EtV is supposed to graft the profound onto the banal.”
I’ll take Werner Herzog’s Fata Morgana. Even Trash Humpers. EtV never really recovers from the awesome opening titles or even the visceral first 30 minutes. It’s crushed under it’s own ambition and pretension. It bugs me that any criticism levelled towards this film could be written off as a merely a reaction to Noe’s unconventional storytelling. Yes, the crazy visuals, graphic sexuality, slow pacing and heady themes are all reasons this film would never get a wide release, but they don’t make it bullet proof. Unconventional does not immediately equal good. It also doesn’t immediately mean that someone who might otherwise appreciate challenging filmmaking (Fata Morgana starts with four minutes of planes landing over and over again and it’s wonderful) will immediately hop on board with Noe and offer public relations on behalf of his film.
Also, if Noe was truly looking to graft the profound onto the banal, I would’ve liked to have seen him resist the urge to explore such a boring sub-culture as the drug underworld (and drug tripping) and focus on something that doesn’t seem so desperate to shock or offend. Just seems very pedestrian. (But it’s SUPPOSED to seem pedestrian!!!!!)
“I do consider EtV to be a rather ‘dumb’ movie, but this is hardly the point of the film, it is not aiming to be an intellectual exercise, it is supposed to be a visceral (and even aiming for viscerally boring at points with repetition).”
No different than a majority of the popcorn blockbusters that you (and we) eviscerate on a regular basis. I will give you the fact that when EtV’s visuals are at their best, they’re miles above the majority of the summer action films, but why criticize one for not providing the WHOLE package (visuals, story, performance, character) and not the other? Simple. Art films can always depend on their enthusiastic, intellectual audiences to fill in the gaps and rationalize the horrible choices that may or may not have been intended by the filmmaker. This is equivalent to the fanboys who responded to every single piece of criticism towards Transformers with ‘What did you expect? It’s giant fucking robots!’ I don’t have much of a problem with people rationalizing on behalf of the films (or filmmakers) you admire. Everyone does it. This is what annoys me: rationalization on behalf of blockbusters has negative connotations and is written off as blind fandom. Meanwhile, the justifications made on behalf of an art film like EtV are labelled as ‘interpretation’. I’ve said it before…Transformers 2 is the ultimate satire on blockbuster action filmmaking. You just have to have the audacity to suggest so.
“Asking EtV to be more ‘normal’ or the acting to be ‘regular’ or whatever, is a foreign criticism for me.”
I’ll speak for myself in that my criticism of Enter the Void wasn’t that it wasn’t ‘normal’ enough. It’s that 2/3 of the film was boring. Both visually and story wise. I also don’t think anyone wanted ‘regular’ acting. Just GOOD acting.
Posted by Jay C. on February 1st, 2011Totally agree about Enter the void and i was a Noe fan for a while…
Posted by John on February 1st, 2011Great ep guys – Loved, loved, loved the catalog talk.
Those questions & concerns about how to store dvds/blu-rays have haunted me since my VHS days. It also broght back my album/cassette/CD sorting issues and the pains to come up with a viable system. I finally decided to make an extra column in my excel file called sorting title where I over-ride the name as needed. So all the James Bonds are grouped together…chronologically.
Did I hear right that Frank sorts music by artist/album title? That’s messed up. I need to have albums (& movies series) sorted chronologically by the artist. Joshua Tree always comes after Unforgettable Fire!
Anyway lots of laughs & I guess I’ll check out iCollect.
Posted by Double_A on February 2nd, 2011Listening to Slashfilm declare that Enter the Void has “a lot to say about life and relationships and the effect we have on each other”
My eyes hurt from rolling.
Posted by Goon on February 2nd, 2011“Art films can always depend on their enthusiastic, intellectual audiences to fill in the gaps and rationalize the horrible choices that may or may not have been intended by the filmmaker.”
Amen.
When a film is made for a mass audience if theres a flaw it simply MUST be because the film has been dumbed down for a mass audience or that the filmmakers themselves are of lesser intelligence…
than the art film or indie filmmaker whose flaws are all decisions of style, or are a statment about storytelling, or are allegorical. I’m not saying there arent cases where I am willing to play along, but sometimes the gut just knows that what you’re looking at is bullshit, and you’ve gotta go with that gut…
and my gut tells me that the sex scenes in Enter the Void are bullshit, that some of the shock scenes in Dogtooh and Haneke films are bullshit… abd meanwhile I continue to hear Slashfilnm praising ETV and spinning that the sex scenes display Noe’s brilliant and dry sense of humor?
Posted by Goon on February 2nd, 2011I just go alphabetical by director, then chronological. So Funny Farm would be after Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and The Sting (George Roy Hill, 1969, ‘73, and ‘88) whereas Spies Like Us would be after Animal House and American Werewolf in London — but Chevy Chase sucks.
Posted by Nat Almirall on February 2nd, 2011When High Fidelity came out I rearranged my cd collection autobiographically just to see what it would look like… that was a pain in the ass.
Posted by Goon on February 2nd, 2011Jay, where did you find a copy of The Visitor?
Posted by Mason on February 2nd, 2011I picked up The Visitor in Toronto. It’s released through Code Red and is available at Amazon.com.
Posted by Jay C. on February 2nd, 2011I didn’t like enter the void, but I agree that this is a movie that MUST be seen in the theater in order to get the full experience. This movie is an audio/visual assault in the theater. All those flashing lights burn out your eyes and the loud noises slice through your brain. When the movie is over you walk out of the theater feeling like shit.
Posted by Regus on February 2nd, 2011I was lucky enough to see Il mercenario on the big screen during a spaghetti western fest last year. Being a huge fan of Gatling guns in movies i was not disappointed.
Posted by projectgenesis on February 2nd, 2011Ah, sorry to hear you guys didn’t like Enter The Void. I thought the film was pretty cool and was one of the best films I saw last year.
Glad you watched The Mercenary Jay. Jack Palance was fuckin awesome. I suggest Companeros to complete the Franco Nero Triple Bill to go along with Django & The Mercenary.
Posted by Primal on February 2nd, 2011First off to Goon: “When High Fidelity came out I rearranged my cd collection autobiographically just to see what it would look like… that was a pain in the ass.” That’s hilarious. I actually thought about doing that too and never could actually work up the courage to do so.
So this is one of my favorite FJ episodes ever. LOVED the talk on how to arrange DVDs vs. Blu-ray and all the “rules” involved. You guys speak my language. I struggle with shelf presentation all the time. I keep all of my DVDs separate from the Blus. EXCEPT. I have a few directors filmographies I keep together (Coens, Polanski, T. Scott, Carpenter, Soderbergh, Kubrick, etc.). These guys stay together on the top shelf and Blu rays and DVD intermingle. I also have my Criterion DVDs next to my Criterion Blu-rays, but I’ve arranged it so they sort of meet in the middle.
As for SNL Goon, they should all go together. Put all the seasons next to each other and then the characters best of’s. Also, numbers go in NUMERICAL order. 12 Angry Men before 21 Grams before 28 Weeks Later. BUT – you guys nailed it, any movie spelled out, like Thirteen Days, goes in the “T” section.
Also, I keep my music DVDs at the end of the stack. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd Wall, etc. all go at the end. The Wall does not go next to Wall Street or Walk the Line. Led Zeppelin does not go next to Let Sleeping Corpses Lie.
I’m pretty much on board with all of the rules you guys laid out. To the chick moving in with her boyfriend, separate your Blus and DVDs! Unacceptable!!
Posted by Andrew James on February 3rd, 2011Man, I can’t believe how many of you guys rock out your collections alphabetically! I have a system based entirely on genre and feeling. I have a comedy section for comedy movies AND TV. I have a horror section sorted by directors, countries and eras(ie. Giallo, Slasher and French New Millenium stuff). I have a Japanese section consisting mostly of Samurai (Chanbara, period drama, exploitation) Yakuza, Pink/Pinky Violence, martial arts and drama. I have a Panasian section for Chinese (Hong Kong), Thai, Phillipino, Indonesian and Indian (Not exactly a huge section). I have a foreign drama section. I have a 70s section consisting of mostly cop movies, dramas and thrillers that bleeds into crime films which bleeds Eurocrime which bleeds into westerns which bleed into war films all mostly held together by Charles Bronson, Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Sam Peckinpah, Steve Mcqueen, Warren Oates, George C. Scott, The Sergios (Leone and Corbucci), Umberto Lenzi, Fernando Di Leo and others.
I then have a shelf of Sci-Fi and adventure films from all eras along with animated stuff and a “mixed” section with modern dramas, thrillers and other shit that isn’t really as important as other shit. It’s actually just barely organized at all in the end but I still know exactly where everything is and I’m pushing upwards of 2500+ discs at this point.
The Blus are all separate though.
Posted by Fatbologna on February 3rd, 2011I do a lot of things differently from the answeres provided
all blu-rays and dvds – tv or movie, are as Frank said, all in one long alphabet
my futurama movies are between vol 4 and 5 for now, did bc even though the collections are ‘volumes’ all the episodes are by season and most Futurama resources consider the movies season 5.. however i break my own rule because I have the Family Guy movies seperate from the sets.
12 Monkeys for me is under “TW” for “Twelve”
Rollins is still under “R” and I’m going with my ‘real person’s show vs. character name’ idea for now.
My generic SNL sets are under “S” all together, but the individual best ofs… Chris Farley is under “F”
but its like Jay said, its kind of based on where you would go to when you first think of the movie… so Great Muppet Caper to me goes under M with the Muppets, and I even have those Muppet movies all arranged by chronological release rather than title, because I guess its important to me that I know which came out when or something… as if these movies were TV seasons.
I also have kind of adopted my filing system based on teh overall prevailing wisdom of stories I shop in. Most of them put “12 Monkeys” under T, etc… not so much about conformity as it is about unity and lack of confusion for myself when I go shopping, I’m not hopping around guessing where stuff would be based on what I’m used to looking at when at home.
Posted by Goon on February 3rd, 2011Jeez fatbolgna, that’s pretty impressive. I could never do that because so many movie cross genres. Where do I put “Never Let Me Go?” In the period drama piece section or in sci-fi? Where do I put “Big Trouble in Little China?” In comedy or action/adventure? It would be impossible for me to do it that way I would get confused and would never know where anything is.
I do however keep anything not in the English language on a separate shelf in alphabetical order.
I just got to the end of the segment where they talk abotu two movies in one. That shit drives me crazy! my “Desperado/El Mariachi” disc for example. Foreign? D? E? Ultimately, like they said in the show, it goes in the “D” section because that’s the first name on the spine. Still, now I have to remember that if I ever want to watch “El Mariachi,” I have to find it under “D”.
Posted by Andrew James on February 3rd, 2011Goon, try putting all of your numbered movies in the beginning (or end). They look cool like that with all the numbers in order – especially if you have a lot of them.
Posted by Andrew James on February 3rd, 2011And to anyone looking for online collection listings, I know there are a bunch, but I like this one a lot:
itrackmine.com. It tracks pretty much anything with a bar code (wine, books, CDs, cereal boxes). Here’s my collection (includes a few books and CDs I never got around to completing):
http://www.itrackmine.com/publicfriendpage.php?iVAU=1083
Posted by Andrew James on February 3rd, 2011here’s a stupid detailed one… does “SE7EN” go under “Sev..” or “Se7″ meaning it would be ahead of “Secretary” rather than after it…
Posted by Goon on February 3rd, 2011I stopped sorting my DVDs about 2 years ago. Now they are in a state of half alphabetical, half just sort of random at the end. It makes for a pain in the ass when trying to find something specific, but very good in terms of ‘what do I feel like watching’ random selection.
Box Sets stay on the top of my shelf. (oddball sizes and shapes). TV has a separate section (That’d include any best of SNLs if I had any, but mostly it is a few TV season sets).
Also, I have a section of “DISCS I’VE BORROWED FROM OTHER FOLKS” so they don’t accidently get intermingled in my collection.
I have a DVD software for my mac, it cost me $9 and does the bar code thing, and the ‘nag-email’ thing (which I do not use). I’m pretty inconsistent with adding new films.
Obviously, while I appreciate the discussions in High Fidelity (and on this podcast) I’m not much of an obsessive librarian-collector type person. I’ve got discs lent out for several years (and have discs borrowed for several years – balancing my Karma)
I own about 1000 discs, and about 300+ festival screeners and ‘non-packaged’ DVDs (for lack of better phrase) I have yet to move up to Bluray, as I’m waiting for my 6-Yr old projector to die before I do a complete system upgrade, and the thing (Sanyo PLZ2 720p) refuses to give up the ghost, yielding a solid picture after over 6000 bulb hours. This is probably more information than anyone needs about my AV situation…
Oh, and Goon, the film was only called Se7en in marketing materials, the real title of the film is simply the word SEVEN.
Posted by Kurt on February 3rd, 2011Oh, yea, and about 200 store-bought VHS tapes. Several films have not came to DVD yet.
Posted by Kurt on February 3rd, 2011you sure Kurt?
Posted by Goon on February 3rd, 2011http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369/
the lana wachowski comment KILLED me
Posted by Robin on February 3rd, 2011Andrew,
I’m a little like Kurt in that I just sorta stopped caring about the organization a couple years ago and only keep them in loose order. Big Trouble’s with the rest of the JC stuff in the Horror/Exploitation section. Exploitation perfectly leads into 70s stuff as most exploitation is from that era anyway.
Newer dramas like Never Let Me Go just get lumped in with the rest of the 90s-recent dramas or in this case specifically would probably end up in Blu-Ray as I don’t really buy DVDs beyond prestige label stuff ala Severin, Synapse, Blue Underground.
Kurt,
I’m still sitting on about 500 VHS in my storage too! You can’t GIVE those bastards away anymore! Anything that’s not on DVD yet I just replaced from Cinemageddon and other fine digital thievery establishments.
Posted by Fatbologna on February 3rd, 2011The other reason I lost interest in organization is the fact that I live in a 1 bedroom apartment with my girlfriend where I also have about 2,000 graphic novels and several hundred hardcover/softcover novels. It feels like the walls are closing in so I just let the stuff go where it fits at this point and do my best to keep it looking pretty. Luckily I have a giant shelving unit that’s about 3 meters long and goes to the ceiling as my central collection piece and 5 other shelves for everything else.
Shelves. The savior of apartment dwellers everywhere.
BTW, with all this collection talk I think that the forum post about collection pics needs to start bumpin’ ’cause I wanna see your guys’ shit!!!
Posted by Fatbologna on February 3rd, 2011Hey guys, concerning Enter the Void, I think it’s true to say the story is rather boilerplate. At the same time I think it’s interesting how this film assembles a rather banal story — by piecing it together from the recollections? projections? imaginings? — of a recently-killed guy. That alone isn’t necessarily ground-breaking, but still, while I agree that some of the images are repeated too many times, they’re all serving the aim of reassembling the pieces of this narrative.
I would further suggest the interpretation — and it is only that — that the story is so cliched, and the dialogue so slapdash, because it is, essentially, a dream. That is, we’re seeing the projections of this consciousness, not the real events as they happened. If you’re like most of us, the dialogue and imagery of your dream states does not rank with the best work of Mamet, Bergman, Kubrick, Hitchcock, etc.
Maybe the shallowness of the dialogue could be seen as a tell that this was essentially a dream state. The over-representation of sex scenes, and the excessive repetition of the childhood trauma, are additional tells.
It’s an interpretation. It may or may not hold up.
Thanks.
-Dale
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