Comments on: Bad News for Batman: David Goyer’s Co-Writing the Next Movie http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/ Blog and Podcast Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:51:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rolf http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-706963 Rolf Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:13:21 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-706963 I think it's a good thing that Nolan isn't in a hurry to do the next BATMAN. I never did understand why the franchises had to be continued that fast... look what it did to SPIDER-MAN... it even killed the franchise! I think it’s a good thing that Nolan isn’t in a hurry to do the next BATMAN. I never did understand why the franchises had to be continued that fast… look what it did to SPIDER-MAN… it even killed the franchise!

]]> By: Josh http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-705429 Josh Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:25:57 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-705429 See... I'd argue that The Dark Knight was the weaker of the two movies (neither of which really struck me as being good). The Dark Knight had serious pacing issues and some really poorly written characters. Were it not for Heath Ledger, the movie would have been wholly forgettable. So I'm hopeful that Goyer can put the Nolans back on the right track and move back towards the much better written Batman Begins, and hopefully exceed it. See… I’d argue that The Dark Knight was the weaker of the two movies (neither of which really struck me as being good). The Dark Knight had serious pacing issues and some really poorly written characters. Were it not for Heath Ledger, the movie would have been wholly forgettable. So I’m hopeful that Goyer can put the Nolans back on the right track and move back towards the much better written Batman Begins, and hopefully exceed it.

]]> By: Ryan M. http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704542 Ryan M. Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:24:05 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704542 As long as he doesn't direct then there is no need to cry. As long as he doesn’t direct then there is no need to cry.

]]> By: Maopheus http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704523 Maopheus Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:53:46 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704523 @Sean, yeah that's what I thought. BB just suffered from the first movie in the series syndrome where you have to set up the origin and all that. I think maybe you had problems with the bad jokes and one-liners like "Can you drive stick" or "I gotta get me one of those". I could have done without that. I think if someone was responsible for those lines it must have been Goyer, as they referenced the previous Batman movies. I also had a problem with the overall premise that the League of Shadows was conspiring to bring down cities that had fallen into sin and crime. I thought the beginning part was great where Wayne learns his craft by basically incorporating ninja skills into his repertoire. If Goyer knows comic books then he probably was responsible for incorporating the story elements from the graphic novel "Year One". The more serious tone, Bruce Wayne viewing his training and preparation to be Batman in an almost military kind of approach, naming the commissioner Loeb and Gordon's corrupt partner Flass, etc. @Sean, yeah that’s what I thought. BB just suffered from the first movie in the series syndrome where you have to set up the origin and all that. I think maybe you had problems with the bad jokes and one-liners like “Can you drive stick” or “I gotta get me one of those”. I could have done without that. I think if someone was responsible for those lines it must have been Goyer, as they referenced the previous Batman movies. I also had a problem with the overall premise that the League of Shadows was conspiring to bring down cities that had fallen into sin and crime. I thought the beginning part was great where Wayne learns his craft by basically incorporating ninja skills into his repertoire. If Goyer knows comic books then he probably was responsible for incorporating the story elements from the graphic novel “Year One”. The more serious tone, Bruce Wayne viewing his training and preparation to be Batman in an almost military kind of approach, naming the commissioner Loeb and Gordon’s corrupt partner Flass, etc.

]]> By: fuckingshit http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704512 fuckingshit Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:27:28 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704512 **Die David Goyer, Die! Needless to say I am fuming. I’m OUTRAGED! ** Furious!? For What? If it hadn’t been for Goyer, Nolan wouldn’t have had the opportunity to direct the fucking franchise. Besides, the Nolan brothers aren’t exactly TDK fans, and they don’t know a lot about it. It is Goyer, the comic book freak, who’s the one keeping the direction inside the actual comic book world. **Die David Goyer, Die!
Needless to say I am fuming. I’m OUTRAGED!
**

Furious!? For What? If it hadn’t been for Goyer, Nolan wouldn’t have had the opportunity to direct the fucking franchise. Besides, the Nolan brothers aren’t exactly TDK fans, and they don’t know a lot about it. It is Goyer, the comic book freak, who’s the one keeping the direction inside the actual comic book world.

]]> By: fuckingshit http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704507 fuckingshit Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:21:45 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704507 Didnt Goyer also write the story for The Dark Knight? Not saying that the Nolan brothers are worse writers (they are far superior), but how do you know Goyer made TDKs bad? Didnt Goyer also write the story for The Dark Knight? Not saying that the Nolan brothers are worse writers (they are far superior), but how do you know Goyer made TDKs bad?

]]> By: Bryan (Drunken Zombie) http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704497 Bryan (Drunken Zombie) Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:02:22 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704497 Everyone seems to be harping on Goyer and his writing and then talking about how awesome Blade II was. People need to check IMDB. Goyer wrote Blade II and also the fantastic movie Dark City. I'm not worried at all as his team up with the Nolan's have produced 2 great films. Everyone seems to be harping on Goyer and his writing and then talking about how awesome Blade II was. People need to check IMDB. Goyer wrote Blade II and also the fantastic movie Dark City. I’m not worried at all as his team up with the Nolan’s have produced 2 great films.

]]> By: Less Lee Moore http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704474 Less Lee Moore Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:10:40 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704474 http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/christopher-nolan-now-consulting-on-superman-reboot.php According to this, Nolan is definitely involved. http://www.pajiba.com/trade_news/christopher-nolan-now-consulting-on-superman-reboot.php

According to this, Nolan is definitely involved.

]]> By: Jason_Miami http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704295 Jason_Miami Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:00:28 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704295 Goyer as a "co-writer" isn't the problem; it's him as a sole writer or director that's the problem. I've liked a lot of movies he's had a small involvement in. If you let him go wild you'll end up with crap but if you have someone sensible there to second-guess him then he can be a good collaborator. At least that's what I've noticed. I agree it's good to have someone with a good amount of knowledge of the fiction. But for the love of God just don't give him creative control! Goyer as a “co-writer” isn’t the problem; it’s him as a sole writer or director that’s the problem. I’ve liked a lot of movies he’s had a small involvement in. If you let him go wild you’ll end up with crap but if you have someone sensible there to second-guess him then he can be a good collaborator. At least that’s what I’ve noticed. I agree it’s good to have someone with a good amount of knowledge of the fiction. But for the love of God just don’t give him creative control!

]]> By: Sean http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704095 Sean Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:41:26 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704095 Yeah I know I'm nitpicking, and I know we don't have the whole story here but I do think Goyer sucks. With regards to Batman Begins, I thought a lot of the dialogue was cheesy and some of the actual plot elements were weak as well. If he's just helping with comic book knowledge though, I assume it will work out fine. Yeah I know I’m nitpicking, and I know we don’t have the whole story here but I do think Goyer sucks.

With regards to Batman Begins, I thought a lot of the dialogue was cheesy and some of the actual plot elements were weak as well. If he’s just helping with comic book knowledge though, I assume it will work out fine.

]]> By: Rusty James http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704080 Rusty James Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:50:38 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704080 @ the Nolan brothers don’t know the Batman series as well as David Goyer good. The Nolan's have something better than knowing the series. They have a vision for the films. Goyer might know a lot about batman comics. But he doesn't know about characters or dialogue and his last acts are a mess. @ the Nolan brothers don’t know the Batman series as well as David Goyer

good. The Nolan’s have something better than knowing the series. They have a vision for the films.

Goyer might know a lot about batman comics. But he doesn’t know about characters or dialogue and his last acts are a mess.

]]> By: Chee http://www.filmjunk.com/2010/02/08/bad-news-for-batman-david-goyers-co-writing-the-next-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-704069 Chee Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:28:08 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=33319#comment-704069 Rusty James - The Nolan brothers don't know the Batman series as well as David Goyer. They need him. Rusty James – The Nolan brothers don’t know the Batman series as well as David Goyer. They need him.

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