Comments on: Best of the Decade #20: Spider-Man 2 (2004) http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/ Blog and Podcast Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:23:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Reed Farrington http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-670104 Reed Farrington Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:43:30 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-670104 Yeah, on a similar note regarding the "death" of Two-Face, I'm with Nicholas Meyer in thinking that they should have kept Spock dead after The Wrath of Khan. :-) Yeah, on a similar note regarding the “death” of Two-Face, I’m with Nicholas Meyer in thinking that they should have kept Spock dead after The Wrath of Khan. :-)

]]> By: Matt Keith http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-670101 Matt Keith Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:39:46 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-670101 " I see no problem bring Two Face back in the next film. easy fix, he wasn’t dead " Nolan confirmed that he was dead. If you ask me bringing him back after its been confirmed would be nothing more than a cheap cop-out. ” I see no problem bring Two Face back in the next film. easy fix, he wasn’t dead ”

Nolan confirmed that he was dead. If you ask me bringing him back after its been confirmed would be nothing more than a cheap cop-out.

]]> By: Paul Andrews http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-670007 Paul Andrews Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:03:18 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-670007 I watched this a month or so ago and still think it's overrated. The MJ elements to the story are cringeworthy, and the principal threat (a giant nuclear magnetic ball in need of a good dousing) is a bit too bizzarre. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Watchmen, X-Men are all better in my book. Still, it seems to be popular, I watched this a month or so ago and still think it’s overrated. The MJ elements to the story are cringeworthy, and the principal threat (a giant nuclear magnetic ball in need of a good dousing) is a bit too bizzarre. Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Watchmen, X-Men are all better in my book. Still, it seems to be popular,

]]> By: rus in chicago http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669919 rus in chicago Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:43:48 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669919 nice Goon nice, have to buy that. hope Nolan is reading this board. I see no problem bring Two Face back in the next film. easy fix, he wasn't dead and Gordon and Batty hide him deep in Arkham Asylum...no? nice Goon nice, have to buy that. hope Nolan is reading this board. I see no problem bring Two Face back in the next film. easy fix, he wasn’t dead and Gordon and Batty hide him deep in Arkham Asylum…no?

]]> By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669426 Goon Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:54:03 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669426 Henrik - http://thepullbox.net/2009/02/10/joker-graphic-novel-review/ Henrik – http://thepullbox.net/2009/02/10/joker-graphic-novel-review/

]]> By: Henrik http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669414 Henrik Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:10:52 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669414 Which comic is that from Goon? Which comic is that from Goon?

]]> By: Matt Keith http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669405 Matt Keith Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:46:21 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669405 "Doc Ock goes to get the tridium or whateveritscalled from Harry, and POOF he’s gone like he’s Batman, despite every other time he walks around he’s making shitloads of noise and tearing the sides off of walls and floors." Yeah, I watched the film not to long ago, and laughed at that. “Doc Ock goes to get the tridium or whateveritscalled from Harry, and POOF he’s gone like he’s Batman, despite every other time he walks around he’s making shitloads of noise and tearing the sides off of walls and floors.”

Yeah, I watched the film not to long ago, and laughed at that.

]]> By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669391 Goon Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:12:56 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669391 "The difficulty in the new Batman is finding a villain that can be effectively adapted to the real world rules established." There's a comic book treatment of a modern Riddler that is clearly styled with the intention of Johnny Depp playing it, wearing Kurt Cobain bug sunglasses, shoulder length red hair, a cane, and with question mark tattoos on his stomach, that would probably work well, and assuming the right casting could very well match the Jokers "cool" factor. Image: http://chromix.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/jokerhc081.jpg “The difficulty in the new Batman is finding a villain that can be effectively adapted to the real world rules established.”

There’s a comic book treatment of a modern Riddler that is clearly styled with the intention of Johnny Depp playing it, wearing Kurt Cobain bug sunglasses, shoulder length red hair, a cane, and with question mark tattoos on his stomach, that would probably work well, and assuming the right casting could very well match the Jokers “cool” factor.

Image:

http://chromix.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/jokerhc081.jpg

]]> By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669390 Goon Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:08:52 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669390 One little thing that bugged me about Spiderman 2 when I watched it again a couple months ago, is the scene where Doc Ock goes to get the tridium or whateveritscalled from Harry, and POOF he's gone like he's Batman, despite every other time he walks around he's making shitloads of noise and tearing the sides off of walls and floors. The same shit kept happening in Terminator Salvation, where all these giant noisy robots can swoop in undetected out of nowhere. One little thing that bugged me about Spiderman 2 when I watched it again a couple months ago, is the scene where Doc Ock goes to get the tridium or whateveritscalled from Harry, and POOF he’s gone like he’s Batman, despite every other time he walks around he’s making shitloads of noise and tearing the sides off of walls and floors.

The same shit kept happening in Terminator Salvation, where all these giant noisy robots can swoop in undetected out of nowhere.

]]> By: Henrik http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669362 Henrik Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:28:53 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669362 It was hard to understand because you state that it is a valid point, then that it is missing the point. Let me rephrase the observation so that it hopefully sounds less critical, and will not provoke another misplaced defense of the Dark Knight. The universe that Spider-Man creates is more likely to serve as comforting and appetizing to a larger number of fans, than the universe of Batman Begins. It just seems more organically developed from the comics to the screen, the Spider-Man movies feel like they could be either comic books or graphic novels, the Batman movies feel like they could only be graphic novels. It was hard to understand because you state that it is a valid point, then that it is missing the point.

Let me rephrase the observation so that it hopefully sounds less critical, and will not provoke another misplaced defense of the Dark Knight. The universe that Spider-Man creates is more likely to serve as comforting and appetizing to a larger number of fans, than the universe of Batman Begins. It just seems more organically developed from the comics to the screen, the Spider-Man movies feel like they could be either comic books or graphic novels, the Batman movies feel like they could only be graphic novels.

]]> By: Grit http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669350 Grit Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:47:44 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669350 This was by far one of the greatest super-hero films ever. They surpassed the first by a wide margin. Defoe was not scary and did not seperate his Osbourne persona from the Goblin one very well. Molina was spot on as Octavious and as Doc Ock. MJ was better in this than the first and third but Dunst was a terrible choice as MJ is a Supermodel in all the comics and stories, and her emerald green eyes were always a feature. Dunst's eyes are blue... Contact lenses would be an option. The fight sequences and story far surpasses the original. This film easily is up there with the best ever and even surpasses The Dark Knight for not dragging like it did This was by far one of the greatest super-hero films ever. They surpassed the first by a wide margin. Defoe was not scary and did not seperate his Osbourne persona from the Goblin one very well. Molina was spot on as Octavious and as Doc Ock. MJ was better in this than the first and third but Dunst was a terrible choice as MJ is a Supermodel in all the comics and stories, and her emerald green eyes were always a feature. Dunst’s eyes are blue… Contact lenses would be an option. The fight sequences and story far surpasses the original. This film easily is up there with the best ever and even surpasses The Dark Knight for not dragging like it did

]]> By: Rusty James http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/12/02/best-of-the-decade-20-spider-man-2/comment-page-1/#comment-669234 Rusty James Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:44:30 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=29692#comment-669234 Also, this idea that there's one correct version of these characters is just wrong. Many of what are considered definitive comic book runs where done by creative teams who were free to reinterpret the characters and take liberties. For instance Frank Miller rewrote Dare Devil's origin. Prior to FM, Dare Devil was more of a swashbuckling Erol Flynn type. Both Nolan and Raimi paid homage to certain aspect of their characters but ignored other aspects (spider-man's wise cracking for instance). But most importantly they both made characters that worked on screen. Also, this idea that there’s one correct version of these characters is just wrong. Many of what are considered definitive comic book runs where done by creative teams who were free to reinterpret the characters and take liberties. For instance Frank Miller rewrote Dare Devil’s origin. Prior to FM, Dare Devil was more of a swashbuckling Erol Flynn type.

Both Nolan and Raimi paid homage to certain aspect of their characters but ignored other aspects (spider-man’s wise cracking for instance).

But most importantly they both made characters that worked on screen.

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