“The most convincing study of pregnancy and rape in peacetime settings (Holmes et al. 1996) (aka the study you cite) involved a three year longitudinal study of a representative sameple of several thousand American women. Among victims of reproductive age (12-45), the rape related pregnancy rate was 5%…. Hammond et al. (1995), whose work was based on in utero DNA paternity tess, report that 60% of the women who became pregnant after rape WERE IMPREGNANTED BY A CONSENSUL MATE. Thus, the figure reported by Holmes et al. probably should be corrected to about 2%. At this time it is not known whether false rape allegations influenced this percentage.”

- A History of Rape (2001)

Goon – you brought up abortion. Not me. I made a general statement about Abortion clinics. You made it personal.

You started it.

And you are a prick.

THAT should have been the title of the movie. That has creepy appeal and makes your movie seem somehow a tad smarter than plain old “Orphan”. I actually forgot the title a couple times and when I first saw this post I was like “Oh yeah, There’s Something Wrong With Esther”

All the evidence is right here.

Comment 10 rick says no pro choicers attacked Juno. post had no opinion/comment about abortion.

In comment 14 I tell rick that Juno did indeed have some people attacking it. no opinion/comment on abortion.

In comment 15 you reply and make a specific comment on abortion.

So either rick started it or you started it, but considering rick was actually on topic…. You started it. Take some responsibility for your own actions. You deliberately went for the hot button issue. You’ve even now, and you alone, added a political bent to it. I admit I took your bait and responded to you, but I also provided the out so this thread could move on, and you’ve rejected it.

That’s a LOT.

Shut-up Ed,

“Fat – If you can show me any sort of research at ALL that gives me some numbers of rape victims that have been impregnanted by their attackers, I’d love to see it. Really. I would. Because I would have to imagine the chances of that occurring are somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,000,000,000,000,006/1.”

Suck on THAT penis of validation…

Sean,

The Orphan looks… poor.
btw, Vera Farmiga seems to have a lot of problems getting a decent kid. Between this and Joshua maybe she should just hang up her child rearing gloves and call it a day.

If you want a really effective bad kid movie I HIGHLY recommend an English film called “The Children”. That one’s kinda disturbing and is already available on R2 dvd or…other places.

“the national rape related pregnancy rate was 5.0% per rape among victims aged 12–45 years, producing over 32 000 pregnancies nationally among women from rape each year”

Source:
Holmes MM et al. Rape-related pregnancy: estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 1996, 175:320–324

What about just discussing whether or not Orphan looks like a decent movie or not?

Smiley faces don’t make you less of a prick.

I’m not surprised – and that’s not too controversial anymore – afterall our own president supported legislation to make it legal to abort children out of the womb.

I’m pretty sure he’s got someone on his staff that used to advocate for the legality of abortions for children aged 2 years and under.

Crazy.

Gives me an idea for a cool movie though – with advances in genetic engineering – mothers no longer have to carry children – machines do it for them and they can design their children any way they see fit – could lead to some moral dillemas… i.e. “Whoops! I won a 2 week trip to tahiti – abort my baby.” Maybe have AI care more for the lives of the children then the human parents that dispose of them for the sake of convenience?

Maybe too close to Gattaca? I think there is potential. It would be tre’ controversial = money.