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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Is Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Racist?</title>
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		<title>By: your mama</title>
		<link>http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/06/26/open-forum-friday-is-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-racist/comment-page-2/#comment-648602</link>
		<dc:creator>your mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, by the way...Ryan M has made the most impressive point out of all of us under number 59. Why does everything have to be a black and white issue? Hell, I am married interacially to a Filipino, and we lived in such a messed up part of the world I think he actually regards himself as &quot;white&quot; as if there is only 2 races, black and white, and if you are anything else you just have to join one of those forces. We have people dying all around the world, with all different shades of skin color, and we...as Americans...fight over the stupidest shit! All I can say is that I hope my kids grow up smarter than we are and know when movies are there to entertain. Do you guys realize you are arguing over 2 ficticious robots from a movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, by the way&#8230;Ryan M has made the most impressive point out of all of us under number 59. Why does everything have to be a black and white issue? Hell, I am married interacially to a Filipino, and we lived in such a messed up part of the world I think he actually regards himself as &#8220;white&#8221; as if there is only 2 races, black and white, and if you are anything else you just have to join one of those forces. We have people dying all around the world, with all different shades of skin color, and we&#8230;as Americans&#8230;fight over the stupidest shit! All I can say is that I hope my kids grow up smarter than we are and know when movies are there to entertain. Do you guys realize you are arguing over 2 ficticious robots from a movie?</p>
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		<title>By: your mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>your mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just throwing this out there, because I know it has been months since this awesome movie came out, but would this whole racism debate even exists if the director happened to be a black American versus a white American...I personally don&#039;t think so, but I&#039;m wondering if any of you who have claimed this movie was racist, whether you are black, white, red, or yellow with purple polka dots for all I care, have you taken that into consideration? Nah, of course not, because then you would have no soapbox to stand upon and bitch about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just throwing this out there, because I know it has been months since this awesome movie came out, but would this whole racism debate even exists if the director happened to be a black American versus a white American&#8230;I personally don&#8217;t think so, but I&#8217;m wondering if any of you who have claimed this movie was racist, whether you are black, white, red, or yellow with purple polka dots for all I care, have you taken that into consideration? Nah, of course not, because then you would have no soapbox to stand upon and bitch about!</p>
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		<title>By: triltesollicy</title>
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		<dc:creator>triltesollicy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  http://watchtvonline1.com - watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places
can I watch tv online.



Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  <a href="http://watchtvonline1.com" rel="nofollow">http://watchtvonline1.com</a> &#8211; watch tv onlinealot, lol some of my favorites are youtube. What are places<br />
can I watch tv online.</p>
<p>Is it legal for me to have  explained here?, and bank accounts? How to start? Can I move my existing business offshore</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: BIG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stereotype is another word to convey what you really want to say without saying directly. 
A stereotype is a type of logical oversimplification in which all the members of a class or set are considered to be definable by an easily distinguishable set of characteristics. The term is often used with a negative connotation, as stereotypes can be used to deny individuals respect or legitimacy based on their membership in a particular group. In America, the term has long been associated with the Civil Rights movement and is imbued with a semblance of racial context.

Stereotypes often form the basis of prejudice and are usually employed to explain real or imaginary differences due to race, gender, religion, age, ethnicity, socio-economic class, disability, and occupation, among the limitless groups one may be identified with. A stereotype can be a conventional and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image based on the belief that there are attitudes, appearances, or behaviors shared by all members of a group.

Thus the attributes of big lips, gold teeth, language associated and the inability to read can only bring you to one conclusion as far as a stereotype go in reference to MUDFLAP and SKID. I am thankful that they did not make them red and blue( gangs stereotype) Cadillacs with 24&#039;s (Black material stereotype) Unless you are from that stereotype most often you would not be offended. Example of a stereotype, it was once said to me that if you don&#039;t want black people to know something put it in a book, blacks are fully aware of this stereotype, so hence a connection has been made and people will get offended not only blacks but whites as well.

I didn&#039;t see a AutoBot that was a trailer or a mobile home, nor did I see a robot with a red neck with no teeth talking like a hillbilly, none of those stereotypes were used. There was one thing that bother me more about this movie than the stereotypes, it was when  Optimus Prime, said &quot; PUNK ASS DECPETICONS&quot;. WTF...... I took my daughter to see this movie and had to explained to her that the Transformers I knew are no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stereotype is another word to convey what you really want to say without saying directly.<br />
A stereotype is a type of logical oversimplification in which all the members of a class or set are considered to be definable by an easily distinguishable set of characteristics. The term is often used with a negative connotation, as stereotypes can be used to deny individuals respect or legitimacy based on their membership in a particular group. In America, the term has long been associated with the Civil Rights movement and is imbued with a semblance of racial context.</p>
<p>Stereotypes often form the basis of prejudice and are usually employed to explain real or imaginary differences due to race, gender, religion, age, ethnicity, socio-economic class, disability, and occupation, among the limitless groups one may be identified with. A stereotype can be a conventional and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image based on the belief that there are attitudes, appearances, or behaviors shared by all members of a group.</p>
<p>Thus the attributes of big lips, gold teeth, language associated and the inability to read can only bring you to one conclusion as far as a stereotype go in reference to MUDFLAP and SKID. I am thankful that they did not make them red and blue( gangs stereotype) Cadillacs with 24&#8217;s (Black material stereotype) Unless you are from that stereotype most often you would not be offended. Example of a stereotype, it was once said to me that if you don&#8217;t want black people to know something put it in a book, blacks are fully aware of this stereotype, so hence a connection has been made and people will get offended not only blacks but whites as well.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see a AutoBot that was a trailer or a mobile home, nor did I see a robot with a red neck with no teeth talking like a hillbilly, none of those stereotypes were used. There was one thing that bother me more about this movie than the stereotypes, it was when  Optimus Prime, said &#8221; PUNK ASS DECPETICONS&#8221;. WTF&#8230;&#8230; I took my daughter to see this movie and had to explained to her that the Transformers I knew are no more.</p>
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		<title>By: MoJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it was meant to offend anyone.....i mean if you can look at orange and green robots and automatically assume they are black because they act ghetto then maybe the problem isn&#039;t in the film, but in you.  I know plenty of folks from every racial ethnicity that act like that from latin, black, asian and white.  

I liked those characters, they were funny, they added a light sense of humor to the movie.  They were most certainly not inept (SPOILER ALERT)!!  They were kicking the giant robots ass in the end of the film.  My only complaint is you never find out what happens to them??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it was meant to offend anyone&#8230;..i mean if you can look at orange and green robots and automatically assume they are black because they act ghetto then maybe the problem isn&#8217;t in the film, but in you.  I know plenty of folks from every racial ethnicity that act like that from latin, black, asian and white.  </p>
<p>I liked those characters, they were funny, they added a light sense of humor to the movie.  They were most certainly not inept (SPOILER ALERT)!!  They were kicking the giant robots ass in the end of the film.  My only complaint is you never find out what happens to them??</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest fuck you in the script is when they say that 5 went into the water and 6 are coming up... but they killed one of them for parts underwater...

five plus one minus one equals five.  I guess &quot;mute math&quot; were on the first soundtrack for a reason *rimshot*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest fuck you in the script is when they say that 5 went into the water and 6 are coming up&#8230; but they killed one of them for parts underwater&#8230;</p>
<p>five plus one minus one equals five.  I guess &#8220;mute math&#8221; were on the first soundtrack for a reason *rimshot*</p>
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		<title>By: PeeGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And nobody seems to note that Bay had to make the twins illiterate or there would have been no need to find Jetfire????

If anything, Bay is guilty of using cheap plot devices and little originality to force the story forwards.

The illiterate part was one instance, the fight in the temple was another (the wall to the tomb had to be broken).

However, when I compare the twins to Jazz I do feel that Jazz had a lot of stereotypical characteristics I could laugh WITH (and which made him likeable) while the twins only had negative characteristics that were obviously meant to be ridiculed.

Making fun with someone  making fun of someone, there&#039;s a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And nobody seems to note that Bay had to make the twins illiterate or there would have been no need to find Jetfire????</p>
<p>If anything, Bay is guilty of using cheap plot devices and little originality to force the story forwards.</p>
<p>The illiterate part was one instance, the fight in the temple was another (the wall to the tomb had to be broken).</p>
<p>However, when I compare the twins to Jazz I do feel that Jazz had a lot of stereotypical characteristics I could laugh WITH (and which made him likeable) while the twins only had negative characteristics that were obviously meant to be ridiculed.</p>
<p>Making fun with someone  making fun of someone, there&#8217;s a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would be an acceptable excuse if they didnt just say they didnt really read, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would be an acceptable excuse if they didnt just say they didnt really read, period.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pretty sure they could read they just could not read the ancient language of Cybertron.  It would be like asking some average person now to just read Latin from a drawing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pretty sure they could read they just could not read the ancient language of Cybertron.  It would be like asking some average person now to just read Latin from a drawing</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I hate about the modern world. You can say anything without having someone complain about out, everyone is so uptight. It was a movie, if your offended, dont go see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I hate about the modern world. You can say anything without having someone complain about out, everyone is so uptight. It was a movie, if your offended, dont go see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racist? No, I don&#039;t think so. Funny? Certainly not!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goon...B.T.W. Dumbo was one of my favorites. Pink Elephants man...Pink Elephants.;S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goon&#8230;B.T.W. Dumbo was one of my favorites. Pink Elephants man&#8230;Pink Elephants.;S</p>
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