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	<title>Comments on: HBO&#8217;s The Pacific Trailer: Band of Brothers 2?</title>
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		<title>By: PG 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About half these comments sound like they were
scripted by the studio.

FACT IS ---having made BILLIONS upon BILLIONS
outsourcing, and catering to the franchise-slum
dumb-down and denial needs of history&#039;s MOST
awesomely genocidal regime ---ACROSS the Pacific (FACT)
---Hollywood is continuing to run for moral cover
behind ad nauseum, anachronistic PC WWII retreads
---EVEN on this! the once again &#039;mysteriously overlooked&#039;  60th Anniversary of the genuinely epic,
relevant ---indeed!  STILL unfolding
--------KOREAN WAR!

DON&#039;T buy into the hype ---OR the set-up!
-----It&#039;s deadly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About half these comments sound like they were<br />
scripted by the studio.</p>
<p>FACT IS &#8212;having made BILLIONS upon BILLIONS<br />
outsourcing, and catering to the franchise-slum<br />
dumb-down and denial needs of history&#8217;s MOST<br />
awesomely genocidal regime &#8212;ACROSS the Pacific (FACT)<br />
&#8212;Hollywood is continuing to run for moral cover<br />
behind ad nauseum, anachronistic PC WWII retreads<br />
&#8212;EVEN on this! the once again &#8216;mysteriously overlooked&#8217;  60th Anniversary of the genuinely epic,<br />
relevant &#8212;indeed!  STILL unfolding<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;KOREAN WAR!</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T buy into the hype &#8212;OR the set-up!<br />
&#8212;&#8211;It&#8217;s deadly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Consumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Isaac N for your common sense and what you said.  I could not have said it beter myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Isaac N for your common sense and what you said.  I could not have said it beter myself.</p>
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		<title>By: seabee</title>
		<link>http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/06/24/hbos-the-pacific-trailer-band-of-brothers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-728306</link>
		<dc:creator>seabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey steven just wanted to let you know that the seabees will just be set pieces because this is a story of the marines and we dont get any credit for soing anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey steven just wanted to let you know that the seabees will just be set pieces because this is a story of the marines and we dont get any credit for soing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the carping about BoB&#039;s America-centrism to be silly, for several reasons.

1. The series isn&#039;t intended to be an overview of the war in the European theater. Its just the story of a few men in one extraordinary Company of Americans, from Advanced Training to Hitler&#039;s Eagles Nest. The Allies rarely make it into the stories, most of the American military doesn&#039;t make it in, most of the 101st Airborne doesn&#039;t make it in, most of the 506th PIR doesn&#039;t make it in. The series&#039; focus on a few characters maintains the emotional connection with the viewer.

2. Americans didn&#039;t like being placed under the command of General Montgomery. That is a historical fact. Their brief groan accurately reflects that. But the rivalry went both ways in the BoB. When Easy Company crossed the river to bring the Red Devils back across, one of the Brits remarked, &quot;never thought I&#039;d be glad to see a bloody Yank.&quot; Now, I could be all sensitive like ThunderBadger and be insulted. But I won&#039;t.

3. As for the claim that America&#039;s allies were either ignored or portrayed as idiots, well, if in the series a British tanker ignores Easy&#039;s warnings and gets himself blown up, then that&#039;s what happened. But there were other meetings with Allies who were portrayed in a positive light. The Dutch resistance was shown to be effective, and the citizens helpful to the Americans. The Red Devils were shown to be tough, well trained, and tightly disciplined. Canadian engineers took Easy across the river in Operation Pegasus. The French hospital workers did amazing work under impossible conditions. And it should be noted that American soldiers and officers in BoB often did stupid things, and American officers were often incompetent.

4. The complaint that American-made war movies are always have an American as the hero. Well, this is usually true, because the movies are made for American audiences. But I&#039;ll bet I can find a lot more American-made war movies with non-American protagonists than you complainers can find war movies from non-American countries with an American in the lead role. Seriously, does the BBC make war movies with an American as the main good guy?  How bout you other countries? Why do you whine about American films when your filmakers do the same thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the carping about BoB&#8217;s America-centrism to be silly, for several reasons.</p>
<p>1. The series isn&#8217;t intended to be an overview of the war in the European theater. Its just the story of a few men in one extraordinary Company of Americans, from Advanced Training to Hitler&#8217;s Eagles Nest. The Allies rarely make it into the stories, most of the American military doesn&#8217;t make it in, most of the 101st Airborne doesn&#8217;t make it in, most of the 506th PIR doesn&#8217;t make it in. The series&#8217; focus on a few characters maintains the emotional connection with the viewer.</p>
<p>2. Americans didn&#8217;t like being placed under the command of General Montgomery. That is a historical fact. Their brief groan accurately reflects that. But the rivalry went both ways in the BoB. When Easy Company crossed the river to bring the Red Devils back across, one of the Brits remarked, &#8220;never thought I&#8217;d be glad to see a bloody Yank.&#8221; Now, I could be all sensitive like ThunderBadger and be insulted. But I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>3. As for the claim that America&#8217;s allies were either ignored or portrayed as idiots, well, if in the series a British tanker ignores Easy&#8217;s warnings and gets himself blown up, then that&#8217;s what happened. But there were other meetings with Allies who were portrayed in a positive light. The Dutch resistance was shown to be effective, and the citizens helpful to the Americans. The Red Devils were shown to be tough, well trained, and tightly disciplined. Canadian engineers took Easy across the river in Operation Pegasus. The French hospital workers did amazing work under impossible conditions. And it should be noted that American soldiers and officers in BoB often did stupid things, and American officers were often incompetent.</p>
<p>4. The complaint that American-made war movies are always have an American as the hero. Well, this is usually true, because the movies are made for American audiences. But I&#8217;ll bet I can find a lot more American-made war movies with non-American protagonists than you complainers can find war movies from non-American countries with an American in the lead role. Seriously, does the BBC make war movies with an American as the main good guy?  How bout you other countries? Why do you whine about American films when your filmakers do the same thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thunder Badger- International and Inter-service rivalries will always exist. I&#039;m a former Marine, and every nation talks trash about the other.  Montomery did great things in africa during the war.  But if a random tank commander is portrayed as an idiot for walking into an ambush, that probably is what would be said. It&#039;s not meant just to throw around praise or insults-it&#039;s based on the actual memoirs of people who witnessed it and their opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunder Badger- International and Inter-service rivalries will always exist. I&#8217;m a former Marine, and every nation talks trash about the other.  Montomery did great things in africa during the war.  But if a random tank commander is portrayed as an idiot for walking into an ambush, that probably is what would be said. It&#8217;s not meant just to throw around praise or insults-it&#8217;s based on the actual memoirs of people who witnessed it and their opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AdamH-It&#039;ll follow the story of three young Marines who survived the &quot;island hopping&quot; campaign of the U.S. Marines.  It will be America-centric by nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AdamH-It&#8217;ll follow the story of three young Marines who survived the &#8220;island hopping&#8221; campaign of the U.S. Marines.  It will be America-centric by nature.</p>
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		<title>By: deirdre murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>deirdre murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in von ryans express, the lead actor was shot to death at the end!!!
There is not enough movies/tv shows about the pacific war, apart from Tenko which showed war from the womens view in camp!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in von ryans express, the lead actor was shot to death at the end!!!<br />
There is not enough movies/tv shows about the pacific war, apart from Tenko which showed war from the womens view in camp!</p>
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		<title>By: ghasl1</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghasl1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Operation Market Garden was already over before it begun and yes it was too ambitious plan and was stupid, just saying that the Americans did the same thing at the Hurtgen Forest lost estimate 20,000 men but they rarely mention it in BoB. And they always don&#039;t mention their canadian counter-part.  As looking forward to this I don&#039;t want them to make it too graphic to see people getting burned alive with flamethrowers like 
We were soldiers&#039;

And that was a false fact at the end of Operation Market Garden, thousands not hundreds of americans were killed including commonwealth and polish (didn&#039;t show SS units in that ep). That tank commander that said &#039;if I cant see it then I cant hit it&#039; just because you cant see it doesn&#039;t necessary mean its not there he should of open mortar fire on it from a distance, barrage fire or outflank it. 

Just remember if there is a hollywood film the lead actor or main hero is always american (which is typical) from The Great Escape to Von Ryan&#039;s Express etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Operation Market Garden was already over before it begun and yes it was too ambitious plan and was stupid, just saying that the Americans did the same thing at the Hurtgen Forest lost estimate 20,000 men but they rarely mention it in BoB. And they always don&#8217;t mention their canadian counter-part.  As looking forward to this I don&#8217;t want them to make it too graphic to see people getting burned alive with flamethrowers like<br />
We were soldiers&#8217;</p>
<p>And that was a false fact at the end of Operation Market Garden, thousands not hundreds of americans were killed including commonwealth and polish (didn&#8217;t show SS units in that ep). That tank commander that said &#8216;if I cant see it then I cant hit it&#8217; just because you cant see it doesn&#8217;t necessary mean its not there he should of open mortar fire on it from a distance, barrage fire or outflank it. </p>
<p>Just remember if there is a hollywood film the lead actor or main hero is always american (which is typical) from The Great Escape to Von Ryan&#8217;s Express etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Thunder Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thunder Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just watching BoB again last night on DVD &amp; what a terrific series it is, and as Alex says, these are American-centric and good luck to them, but there always seems to be a moment in these stories when the other nations get insulted. 

In BoB there&#039;s the briefing for Operation Market Garden when the troppers &#039;groan&#039; when told it&#039;s under Montgomery&#039;s leadership. Then the episode portrays a British tank commander as an idiot for advancing into an ambush. 

To be fair, in the end titles after mentioning how the Airborne lost 750 men, they go on to say that the British lost 8,000 in the same op.

In Saving Private Ryan, again, for no apparent reason, Montgomery is called &quot;Overrated&quot; by Ted Danson&#039;s para, and let us not mention U-571.

I don&#039;t have a problem with Americans telling American stories, but the danger is that they risk offending other countries who fought longer and lost more than they did. 

I mean, what if the BBC did a film about the Twin Towers, focusing on the British killed there, portraying them as heroic and the Americans as stupid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just watching BoB again last night on DVD &amp; what a terrific series it is, and as Alex says, these are American-centric and good luck to them, but there always seems to be a moment in these stories when the other nations get insulted. </p>
<p>In BoB there&#8217;s the briefing for Operation Market Garden when the troppers &#8216;groan&#8217; when told it&#8217;s under Montgomery&#8217;s leadership. Then the episode portrays a British tank commander as an idiot for advancing into an ambush. </p>
<p>To be fair, in the end titles after mentioning how the Airborne lost 750 men, they go on to say that the British lost 8,000 in the same op.</p>
<p>In Saving Private Ryan, again, for no apparent reason, Montgomery is called &#8220;Overrated&#8221; by Ted Danson&#8217;s para, and let us not mention U-571.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with Americans telling American stories, but the danger is that they risk offending other countries who fought longer and lost more than they did. </p>
<p>I mean, what if the BBC did a film about the Twin Towers, focusing on the British killed there, portraying them as heroic and the Americans as stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex (Sgt, USMC '02-'07)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex (Sgt, USMC '02-'07)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also very excited for the release of this mini-series. However, I need to address some of the comments made by other users on this site. This is American-centric, no doubt. But you have to understand that it is being based on books written by American&#039;s who fought these battles. The same is true of the original Band of Brothers. These mini-series&#039; are focusing on those stories, not stories from other nation&#039;s warriors. Just because it is American-centric does not make it any less incredible or any less credible. Semper Fi Marines!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also very excited for the release of this mini-series. However, I need to address some of the comments made by other users on this site. This is American-centric, no doubt. But you have to understand that it is being based on books written by American&#8217;s who fought these battles. The same is true of the original Band of Brothers. These mini-series&#8217; are focusing on those stories, not stories from other nation&#8217;s warriors. Just because it is American-centric does not make it any less incredible or any less credible. Semper Fi Marines!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was / I am a great fan of BoB and Im sure this will be equally as good. However the Americans regularly insult the other nations that fought in WW2 by either ignoring they existed or belittling there efforts. Many Australians &amp; British fought the Japanease by I doubt they will get a mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was / I am a great fan of BoB and Im sure this will be equally as good. However the Americans regularly insult the other nations that fought in WW2 by either ignoring they existed or belittling there efforts. Many Australians &amp; British fought the Japanease by I doubt they will get a mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks amazing,I&#039;m really looking forward to it, only thing I wish they would do know is maybe make a mini series of some of the british speical forces aswell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks amazing,I&#8217;m really looking forward to it, only thing I wish they would do know is maybe make a mini series of some of the british speical forces aswell.</p>
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