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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Does Smoking in Movies Really Influence Kids?</title>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theonion.com/content/video/new_anti_smoking_ads_warn_teens

Good timing for this nice piece of satire to pop up. Check it.</description>
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<p>Good timing for this nice piece of satire to pop up. Check it.</p>
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		<title>By: Itchy-Finger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itchy-Finger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Goon
I hear ya, I watch porn all the time and never have gotten raped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Goon<br />
I hear ya, I watch porn all the time and never have gotten raped.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJo Jacky</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoJo Jacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya   
I read yer post
Very well constructed
In fact I have been searching for this for months
 www.filmjunk.com  is a site i&#039;ll keep bookmarked
Great effort keep up the good work !
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya<br />
I read yer post<br />
Very well constructed<br />
In fact I have been searching for this for months<br />
 <a href="http://www.filmjunk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.filmjunk.com</a>  is a site i&#8217;ll keep bookmarked<br />
Great effort keep up the good work !<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: AQUACTATH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AQUACTATH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say hello all. This is my first post.

I expect to learn a lot here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say hello all. This is my first post.</p>
<p>I expect to learn a lot here.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many kids some of these people think started smoking because of Cruella de Ville?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many kids some of these people think started smoking because of Cruella de Ville?</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tobacco companies have historically paid off film makers and actors because they know that the best commercial is one that you donâ€™t even realize you are watching.&quot;

But these days I am hard pressed to think of any modern character on TV or movies that smokes that is seen as a hero or cool.  The best example I can think of is Doc Cottle on Battlestar Galactica, which is more for comic effect.

I generally have a beef with the anti-smoking lobby because some of the things they&#039;ve resorted to are downright bullying, they get way too much funding vs. other more urgent awareness groups like breast cancer, and because they&#039;re the good guys they&#039;re able to get away with a lot of downright lying in advertising and brochures because to correct them makes you look like some paid off undercover lobbyist for the tobacco industry, or some chainsmoker in denial.

On top of all of this, the more clout given the idea that &#039;seeing smoking = starting smoking&#039; just fuels every other annoying group that wants to blame video games for violence, blame porn for rape and violence, blame horror movies for murder, or any other group actively absolving any personal responsibility from anyone, turning everyone into victims, and ultimately trying to remove peoples choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tobacco companies have historically paid off film makers and actors because they know that the best commercial is one that you donâ€™t even realize you are watching.&#8221;</p>
<p>But these days I am hard pressed to think of any modern character on TV or movies that smokes that is seen as a hero or cool.  The best example I can think of is Doc Cottle on Battlestar Galactica, which is more for comic effect.</p>
<p>I generally have a beef with the anti-smoking lobby because some of the things they&#8217;ve resorted to are downright bullying, they get way too much funding vs. other more urgent awareness groups like breast cancer, and because they&#8217;re the good guys they&#8217;re able to get away with a lot of downright lying in advertising and brochures because to correct them makes you look like some paid off undercover lobbyist for the tobacco industry, or some chainsmoker in denial.</p>
<p>On top of all of this, the more clout given the idea that &#8217;seeing smoking = starting smoking&#8217; just fuels every other annoying group that wants to blame video games for violence, blame porn for rape and violence, blame horror movies for murder, or any other group actively absolving any personal responsibility from anyone, turning everyone into victims, and ultimately trying to remove peoples choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my bias; I work for the anti-tobacco side. Having said that, I must admit I was at first skeptical when we started working on this. Once I read the Sargent study out of Dartmouth and published in the Lancet, I realized that what we are doing is exactly what some of you have proposed; giving parents more power to influence their children&#039;s behavior. If they can use the rating system to protect their children, then we will save 60,000 lives. And remember, tobacco companies have historically paid off film makers and actors because they know that the best commercial is one that you don&#039;t even realize you are watching. Check out the smokefreemovies website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my bias; I work for the anti-tobacco side. Having said that, I must admit I was at first skeptical when we started working on this. Once I read the Sargent study out of Dartmouth and published in the Lancet, I realized that what we are doing is exactly what some of you have proposed; giving parents more power to influence their children&#8217;s behavior. If they can use the rating system to protect their children, then we will save 60,000 lives. And remember, tobacco companies have historically paid off film makers and actors because they know that the best commercial is one that you don&#8217;t even realize you are watching. Check out the smokefreemovies website.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5423098/The-Simpsons-promotes-smoking.html

Funny a couple days after this article a group attacks The Simpsons for promoting smoking, saying that even though the show paints it negatively, depicting it at all is somehow encouragement.

I suppose by that logic they should just stop running &#039;dont drink and drive&#039; ads, right?</description>
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<p>Funny a couple days after this article a group attacks The Simpsons for promoting smoking, saying that even though the show paints it negatively, depicting it at all is somehow encouragement.</p>
<p>I suppose by that logic they should just stop running &#8216;dont drink and drive&#8217; ads, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 19:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm ... and eating an ice cream cone can lead to Type II Diabetes.  Everything is bad for you.  I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;ve seen too many recent portrayls of smoking as being anything other than a nasty vice of flawed anti-heroes or a prop for bad guys.  Then again Sherlock Holmes is coming out soon and I bet that&#039;ll make all the kids want to shoot up morphine and practice inductive thinking whilst smoking a pipe on their way to the opium dens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8230; and eating an ice cream cone can lead to Type II Diabetes.  Everything is bad for you.  I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve seen too many recent portrayls of smoking as being anything other than a nasty vice of flawed anti-heroes or a prop for bad guys.  Then again Sherlock Holmes is coming out soon and I bet that&#8217;ll make all the kids want to shoot up morphine and practice inductive thinking whilst smoking a pipe on their way to the opium dens.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this article, I have an urge to smoke now. &gt;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this article, I have an urge to smoke now. &gt;P</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandfather used to say that if you didn&#039;t smoke, then you weren&#039;t a man. Nevertheless, my father ignored his advice, and taught me the important lesson that you shouldn&#039;t always listen to your parents.

Personally, having grown up when men used to smoke in movies all the time, I&#039;ve always thought that smoking is cool. Nowadays, there are no real men in the movies.

Real men die young.

(Do I need to mention that I don&#039;t smoke and that I&#039;m old?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather used to say that if you didn&#8217;t smoke, then you weren&#8217;t a man. Nevertheless, my father ignored his advice, and taught me the important lesson that you shouldn&#8217;t always listen to your parents.</p>
<p>Personally, having grown up when men used to smoke in movies all the time, I&#8217;ve always thought that smoking is cool. Nowadays, there are no real men in the movies.</p>
<p>Real men die young.</p>
<p>(Do I need to mention that I don&#8217;t smoke and that I&#8217;m old?)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is taking it too far. To require an R-rating for a cigarette smoking character seems pretty ridiculous to me. I dont think it has anything to do with being a parent and there are worse things in PG-13&#039;s than this. I think that smoking in movies has largely decreased since society has recognized that it is unhealthy and I would say that the amount of smokers within movies are relative to that of the population, if not less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is taking it too far. To require an R-rating for a cigarette smoking character seems pretty ridiculous to me. I dont think it has anything to do with being a parent and there are worse things in PG-13&#8217;s than this. I think that smoking in movies has largely decreased since society has recognized that it is unhealthy and I would say that the amount of smokers within movies are relative to that of the population, if not less.</p>
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