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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Does Piracy Actually Hurt a Film Financially?</title>
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		<title>By: Brutal_Aeons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brutal_Aeons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares?

If the companies want to secure their profits, they should make their product not so easily distributable.  They&#039;re the ones that have to get creative.  Piracy IS going to exist whether you think it&#039;s moral, immoral, or whatever.  People that pirate movies don&#039;t care what you think, or how you &quot;feel&quot;.  No one cares how you feel.

The truth is, the companies are going to have to do something extra with their movies/music to make it not so easy to be pirated.  I have no answers for them, like I said, either get creative, or get your product stolen.

Complaining and whining to the government and international agencies is not the answer, nor is it productive, or even WORKING for that matter.  Pirating is not even an art anymore it&#039;s become so easy.  Hell, with a quick google search you can just about find any album/movie you want at the convenience of enjoying it in your home free of charge.

So companies, if you don&#039;t want to be jipped like you jip the populace, then you&#039;re going to have to up your ante.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares?</p>
<p>If the companies want to secure their profits, they should make their product not so easily distributable.  They&#8217;re the ones that have to get creative.  Piracy IS going to exist whether you think it&#8217;s moral, immoral, or whatever.  People that pirate movies don&#8217;t care what you think, or how you &#8220;feel&#8221;.  No one cares how you feel.</p>
<p>The truth is, the companies are going to have to do something extra with their movies/music to make it not so easy to be pirated.  I have no answers for them, like I said, either get creative, or get your product stolen.</p>
<p>Complaining and whining to the government and international agencies is not the answer, nor is it productive, or even WORKING for that matter.  Pirating is not even an art anymore it&#8217;s become so easy.  Hell, with a quick google search you can just about find any album/movie you want at the convenience of enjoying it in your home free of charge.</p>
<p>So companies, if you don&#8217;t want to be jipped like you jip the populace, then you&#8217;re going to have to up your ante.</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online DVD rental sites are gaining popularity rapidly. However, once can easily be confused with so many of those DVD rental sites out there as each has their own terms and pricing. It is wise to compare the top DVD rental sites before signing up with any.

For more information visit: http://online-dvd-rental-reviews.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online DVD rental sites are gaining popularity rapidly. However, once can easily be confused with so many of those DVD rental sites out there as each has their own terms and pricing. It is wise to compare the top DVD rental sites before signing up with any.</p>
<p>For more information visit: <a href="http://online-dvd-rental-reviews.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://online-dvd-rental-reviews.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Darkbloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Darkbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I download movies (and music) illegally because i simply cannot bring myself to pay for something which i know damn well i can get for free at the touch of a button. 

I know it&#039;s theft, i make no excuse, it&#039;s wrong... I simply can&#039;t justify spending money on things that are available for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I download movies (and music) illegally because i simply cannot bring myself to pay for something which i know damn well i can get for free at the touch of a button. </p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s theft, i make no excuse, it&#8217;s wrong&#8230; I simply can&#8217;t justify spending money on things that are available for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rus, your  a dick. You dont consider any of the greater systems in play. Why do people pirate films? Its not purely a matter of money, there are people who flat out dont care about the suposed &quot;benefits&quot;.

For example, have you seen that new fast food commercial where they ask people if they will pay double at the fancy table? That is the movie industry in its current form. Except you MUST pay double for the fancy table.

Piracy is a problem because the industry does not look to cater to that market. And why would they, this is the way the movie bizz worked in the past, so it should never change right?

The truth is the industry needs to examine why people pirate, and create a system that captures that market. There are some channels that are now allowing veiwers to watch their programs for free over the interent, and beleive me they are making money from this.

Does this hurt the already in palce buisness of Theatres and DVDs? perhaps, but it comes down to a decision, a decision to diversify to more markets, or continue to neglect other groups.

It seems that the only real delay in accepting the potential benefits of a new market is a fear of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rus, your  a dick. You dont consider any of the greater systems in play. Why do people pirate films? Its not purely a matter of money, there are people who flat out dont care about the suposed &#8220;benefits&#8221;.</p>
<p>For example, have you seen that new fast food commercial where they ask people if they will pay double at the fancy table? That is the movie industry in its current form. Except you MUST pay double for the fancy table.</p>
<p>Piracy is a problem because the industry does not look to cater to that market. And why would they, this is the way the movie bizz worked in the past, so it should never change right?</p>
<p>The truth is the industry needs to examine why people pirate, and create a system that captures that market. There are some channels that are now allowing veiwers to watch their programs for free over the interent, and beleive me they are making money from this.</p>
<p>Does this hurt the already in palce buisness of Theatres and DVDs? perhaps, but it comes down to a decision, a decision to diversify to more markets, or continue to neglect other groups.</p>
<p>It seems that the only real delay in accepting the potential benefits of a new market is a fear of change.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have already expressed my willingness to watch movies made by horrible systems, ie. Triumph of the Will, mate. 

What&#039;s with this asshole, I&#039;ve-now-got-a-smoking-gun-to-use-to-kill-the-argument attitude?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already expressed my willingness to watch movies made by horrible systems, ie. Triumph of the Will, mate. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s with this asshole, I&#8217;ve-now-got-a-smoking-gun-to-use-to-kill-the-argument attitude?</p>
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		<title>By: rus in chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>rus in chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.k. you convinced me and I think we should practice what we preach.  I&#039;ll only watch films made in a capitalist system and not touch your precious government funded artform system films that should replace my capitalist pig films.  Likewise, you agree to support the change you seek by only watching the great government supported arthouse fare you hold so dear.  

Agree, great!  Good luck, its been great talking to you.  Shit, I got to get busy I have A LOT of really cool films to support this summer!  How about you, excited?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.k. you convinced me and I think we should practice what we preach.  I&#8217;ll only watch films made in a capitalist system and not touch your precious government funded artform system films that should replace my capitalist pig films.  Likewise, you agree to support the change you seek by only watching the great government supported arthouse fare you hold so dear.  </p>
<p>Agree, great!  Good luck, its been great talking to you.  Shit, I got to get busy I have A LOT of really cool films to support this summer!  How about you, excited?</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, FYI, it&#039;s only called show business in america. And england I guess, since they have the word as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, FYI, it&#8217;s only called show business in america. And england I guess, since they have the word as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yet, it appears that the majority of the films that people hold up as ground breaking and inspired come out of the very system I describe.&quot;

I can only say that I do not care at all what the masses think of things. I don&#039;t care about business. I care about what touches me. 

I think Triumph of the Will is groundbreaking and inspired. Same with JÃ¼d Suss. Alot of people do as well. What does that tell you? We should condone the system? Obviously not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet, it appears that the majority of the films that people hold up as ground breaking and inspired come out of the very system I describe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can only say that I do not care at all what the masses think of things. I don&#8217;t care about business. I care about what touches me. </p>
<p>I think Triumph of the Will is groundbreaking and inspired. Same with JÃ¼d Suss. Alot of people do as well. What does that tell you? We should condone the system? Obviously not.</p>
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		<title>By: rus in chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>rus in chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrik, its called show business, not show art or show public endeavor.  I don&#039;t know what your deal is, every form of commerce has its art side; those examples that make something more of the basic function of the task.  In architecture, book binding, hair cutting, all of them have some empowered individuals that put in the blood, sweat and tears to make a artform out of their product and advance it with their ideas.  And you know why they can? because there is a economic framework in their business that allows them to do that exploration.  With your way of thinking the last century of film making should be heavily influenced by major films from areas of the world that have a government supported film making process.  Yet, it appears that the majority of the films that people hold up as ground breaking and inspired come out of the very system I describe. The idiot and moron is you fine sir, it is you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrik, its called show business, not show art or show public endeavor.  I don&#8217;t know what your deal is, every form of commerce has its art side; those examples that make something more of the basic function of the task.  In architecture, book binding, hair cutting, all of them have some empowered individuals that put in the blood, sweat and tears to make a artform out of their product and advance it with their ideas.  And you know why they can? because there is a economic framework in their business that allows them to do that exploration.  With your way of thinking the last century of film making should be heavily influenced by major films from areas of the world that have a government supported film making process.  Yet, it appears that the majority of the films that people hold up as ground breaking and inspired come out of the very system I describe. The idiot and moron is you fine sir, it is you!</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;most see film making as a craft and not an art.&quot;

Really? It&#039;s like I always suspected, this world is a cesspool of idiots and morons! For me, I see it as art. The financial side of it doesn&#039;t interest me. I want to see movies in the theater, because it is the best experience, and where they were meant to be shown. The fact that it costs money annoys me. I wish I had complete power, I would fund the movies I wanted to see, and release them for free to the public. Imagine how many good movies can be made for the budget of Iron Man? That&#039;d be a world worth living in.

I will quote Renny Harlin again: &quot;In Europe, film making is perceived as an art form with marginal business possibilities, and in the US, film making is a business with marginal artistic possibilities.&quot;

Wintle, I am aware that horror is a genre that does have alot of cheap shit, and that the worse it is, sometimes the better it is, but are the people really making a decent amount of money? I guess maybe they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;most see film making as a craft and not an art.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? It&#8217;s like I always suspected, this world is a cesspool of idiots and morons! For me, I see it as art. The financial side of it doesn&#8217;t interest me. I want to see movies in the theater, because it is the best experience, and where they were meant to be shown. The fact that it costs money annoys me. I wish I had complete power, I would fund the movies I wanted to see, and release them for free to the public. Imagine how many good movies can be made for the budget of Iron Man? That&#8217;d be a world worth living in.</p>
<p>I will quote Renny Harlin again: &#8220;In Europe, film making is perceived as an art form with marginal business possibilities, and in the US, film making is a business with marginal artistic possibilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wintle, I am aware that horror is a genre that does have alot of cheap shit, and that the worse it is, sometimes the better it is, but are the people really making a decent amount of money? I guess maybe they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Wintle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wintle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment about whining wasn&#039;t directed specifically at you, rus.  It was meant as a rebuke to those people and organizations who are content to ignore the need to get proactive and seek other options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment about whining wasn&#8217;t directed specifically at you, rus.  It was meant as a rebuke to those people and organizations who are content to ignore the need to get proactive and seek other options.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a system in place where I could simply pay a monthly fee or something and it would give me access to download movies.

Like a porn site but with regular movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there was a system in place where I could simply pay a monthly fee or something and it would give me access to download movies.</p>
<p>Like a porn site but with regular movies.</p>
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