Comments on: Kung Fu Panda Sweeps Wall-E at the 2008 Annie Awards http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/ Blog and Podcast Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:14:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530822 Goon Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:11:29 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530822 Colin, I think you're actually not following me, the big point of course being that 'fun' is just one element, and being 'fun' shouldnt be considered a strike against something being award worthy. often films deemed 'emotional' are treated as being more worthy, so why shouldnt something that is 'fun'? People treat 'fun' as if its easy. It's taken for granted. Some of these arguments are devils advocate type dealies. Yeah Star Wars has more going on, but come on, it the movie was no fun and wasn't loved/wasn't a success it certainly wouldn't have helped it any. Which circles back to the original argument, that KFP is fun, but it has just enough other things going on with it to get it attention and possibly win an award. And when you consider the lack of competition in the animation category, well there you go, not worth complaining about it being nominated. I remember people being weirded out by Happy Feet winning a couple years ago over Cars. Well anyone who's actually seen Happy Feet knows that even though in one sentence you tell people its about a bunch of dancing penguins, that theres more going on than that. Colin, I think you’re actually not following me, the big point of course being that ‘fun’ is just one element, and being ‘fun’ shouldnt be considered a strike against something being award worthy. often films deemed ‘emotional’ are treated as being more worthy, so why shouldnt something that is ‘fun’? People treat ‘fun’ as if its easy. It’s taken for granted.

Some of these arguments are devils advocate type dealies. Yeah Star Wars has more going on, but come on, it the movie was no fun and wasn’t loved/wasn’t a success it certainly wouldn’t have helped it any. Which circles back to the original argument, that KFP is fun, but it has just enough other things going on with it to get it attention and possibly win an award.

And when you consider the lack of competition in the animation category, well there you go, not worth complaining about it being nominated.

I remember people being weirded out by Happy Feet winning a couple years ago over Cars. Well anyone who’s actually seen Happy Feet knows that even though in one sentence you tell people its about a bunch of dancing penguins, that theres more going on than that.

]]> By: Steven http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530774 Steven Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:37:54 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530774 Where did this whole "fun" thing come from? I would have voted for Kung Fu Panda in most, if not all, of those awards, and it wouldn't be because it was "fun". I imagine that the voters all had their reasons, but I doubt the majority voted based on Kung Fu Panda being "fun". It being a "fun" movie is just icing. Where did this whole “fun” thing come from? I would have voted for Kung Fu Panda in most, if not all, of those awards, and it wouldn’t be because it was “fun”. I imagine that the voters all had their reasons, but I doubt the majority voted based on Kung Fu Panda being “fun”. It being a “fun” movie is just icing.

]]> By: Colin http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530657 Colin Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:40:42 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530657 @Goon Star Wars was nominated because of the revolutionary special effects and timeless story arc based on Joseph Campbell's theory of the monomyth. There's no rule that states an award worthy film can't be fun, and that's not what I'm advocating. But when you give an award to a film over another because you thought it was "more fun" you're doing art a disservice. For example, I've seen Austin Powers more times than I've seen Citizen Kane, and I'd rather watch Austin Powers because it's more fun, but there's no way I would consider it a better film. You follow me? @Goon

Star Wars was nominated because of the revolutionary special effects and timeless story arc based on Joseph Campbell’s theory of the monomyth.

There’s no rule that states an award worthy film can’t be fun, and that’s not what I’m advocating. But when you give an award to a film over another because you thought it was “more fun” you’re doing art a disservice.

For example, I’ve seen Austin Powers more times than I’ve seen Citizen Kane, and I’d rather watch Austin Powers because it’s more fun, but there’s no way I would consider it a better film.

You follow me?

]]> By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530509 Goon Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:21:11 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530509 That's not the point. you said 'fun' isnt a proper adjective, and that was one adjective a lot of people use for Pulp Fiction. There are more reasons to defend KFP besides 'fun'. i mean its hardly profound, but its not the stupidest movie either. A word Kurt uses for certain things is 'poetry' and for an animated films there are moments like that. What about Star Wars' nomination? That’s not the point. you said ‘fun’ isnt a proper adjective, and that was one adjective a lot of people use for Pulp Fiction. There are more reasons to defend KFP besides ‘fun’. i mean its hardly profound, but its not the stupidest movie either. A word Kurt uses for certain things is ‘poetry’ and for an animated films there are moments like that.

What about Star Wars’ nomination?

]]> By: Colin http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530469 Colin Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:05:37 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530469 @Goon Pulp Fiction wasn't nominated because the academy thought it was fun, it was nominated because it had an interesting script, great performances, and was well-directed. It lost to Forrest Gump, but I think Quiz Show or Shawshank Redemption should have won that year. @Goon

Pulp Fiction wasn’t nominated because the academy thought it was fun, it was nominated because it had an interesting script, great performances, and was well-directed.

It lost to Forrest Gump, but I think Quiz Show or Shawshank Redemption should have won that year.

]]> By: Steven http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530432 Steven Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:30:08 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530432 Kung Fu Panda is the first feature film to convince me that computer-generated animation can come close to matching the quality of traditional animation. The Annie Awards done 'em right. Kung Fu Panda is the first feature film to convince me that computer-generated animation can come close to matching the quality of traditional animation. The Annie Awards done ‘em right.

]]> By: Goon http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530100 Goon Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:57:16 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530100 "Since when is “fun” a valid adjective in describing an award worthy film?" If you're going to have that attitude, you just justified Pulp Fiction getting passed over for Best Picture. “Since when is “fun” a valid adjective in describing an award worthy film?”

If you’re going to have that attitude, you just justified Pulp Fiction getting passed over for Best Picture.

]]> By: erin http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-530081 erin Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:27:39 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-530081 My vote is definitely for Kung Fu Panda! I love that movie and, of course, it will win because it got way better <a href="http://www.everhype.com/?utm_source=bc" rel="nofollow">ratings</a> than all others!!This movie deserves it! My vote is definitely for Kung Fu Panda! I love that movie and, of course, it will win because it got way better ratings than all others!!This movie deserves it!

]]> By: swarez http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-529977 swarez Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:46:25 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-529977 It is strange that the panda won every single category. I have yet to see KFP but I'm pretty sure that Wall-E is better film making. But then again I have no idea how this award judges the films they see. It is strange that the panda won every single category. I have yet to see KFP but I’m pretty sure that Wall-E is better film making. But then again I have no idea how this award judges the films they see.

]]> By: Bas http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-529970 Bas Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:33:11 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-529970 @Colin: I think Kung Fu Panda won its Annie Awards in spite of the fun-factor, not because of it. Writing should have gone to Wall-E, I guess, but as for the other categories I'm not so sure. Aside from its story Wall-E is great because of its mood and 'heart', but there are no category-awards for such illusive traits. @Colin: I think Kung Fu Panda won its Annie Awards in spite of the fun-factor, not because of it. Writing should have gone to Wall-E, I guess, but as for the other categories I’m not so sure. Aside from its story Wall-E is great because of its mood and ‘heart’, but there are no category-awards for such illusive traits.

]]> By: Andy http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-529966 Andy Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:25:28 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-529966 I love both movies — I saw both in theaters, and bought both on DVD. Wall-E had my jaw on the floor from minute 1, and kept it there. Kung Fu Panda is fun but plot-wise it's ultimately standard fare (and buttcheek humor yay!). Both movies are absolutely gorgeous. But as far as I'm concerned, Wall-E is the better film. It's not even close. I love both movies — I saw both in theaters, and bought both on DVD.

Wall-E had my jaw on the floor from minute 1, and kept it there. Kung Fu Panda is fun but plot-wise it’s ultimately standard fare (and buttcheek humor yay!). Both movies are absolutely gorgeous.

But as far as I’m concerned, Wall-E is the better film. It’s not even close.

]]> By: Bob The Slob http://www.filmjunk.com/2009/02/02/kung-fu-panda-sweeps-wall-e-at-the-2008-annie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-529960 Bob The Slob Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:11:35 +0000 http://www.filmjunk.com/?p=15299#comment-529960 it beat it in the writing depart? really?...ridiculous...not that it matters. it beat it in the writing depart? really?…ridiculous…not that it matters.

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