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	<title>Comments on: Treknobabble #41: Star Trek: The Trailer</title>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
		<link>http://www.filmjunk.com/2008/11/19/treknobabble-41-star-trek-the-trailer/comment-page-1/#comment-497869</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan M, I appreciate your confusion.

My laptop battery is just about dead, so I gotta make this quick.  Your comments are well-justified, but my point was that if I was not a Trekkie, that&#039;s what a fil...

Sorry for the late reply, Ryan M.  My laptop did indeed die before I could send the above.  So I&#039;ll complete my thought now.

My criticisms that you responded to were of the trailer itself, and somewhat to the movie.  The &quot;coming of age&quot; aspect can be done well and can be done badly, but I was addressing the fact that it&#039;s a theme that gets overused to appeal to mainstream audiences.

As a Trekkie, I know that Star Trek is corny, but the serious film critic who views the trailer will have his conviction justified that Star Trek is a kiddie show not serious enough for film criticism.

Anyway, I appreciate that you enjoyed the trailer as the Trekkie in me did as well.

BTW, the trailer for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is intriguing, but it too fails in the visual cohesiveness department for me.  It&#039;s just all over the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan M, I appreciate your confusion.</p>
<p>My laptop battery is just about dead, so I gotta make this quick.  Your comments are well-justified, but my point was that if I was not a Trekkie, that&#8217;s what a fil&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for the late reply, Ryan M.  My laptop did indeed die before I could send the above.  So I&#8217;ll complete my thought now.</p>
<p>My criticisms that you responded to were of the trailer itself, and somewhat to the movie.  The &#8220;coming of age&#8221; aspect can be done well and can be done badly, but I was addressing the fact that it&#8217;s a theme that gets overused to appeal to mainstream audiences.</p>
<p>As a Trekkie, I know that Star Trek is corny, but the serious film critic who views the trailer will have his conviction justified that Star Trek is a kiddie show not serious enough for film criticism.</p>
<p>Anyway, I appreciate that you enjoyed the trailer as the Trekkie in me did as well.</p>
<p>BTW, the trailer for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is intriguing, but it too fails in the visual cohesiveness department for me.  It&#8217;s just all over the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whut?

&quot;As a film critic, the whole coming of age beginning and subsequent mish-mash was corny beyond belief.&quot;

It&#039;s a trailer! How can you possibly know whether or not it&#039;s corny in the movie? Premature criticism. 

&quot;The imagery was all over the place.&quot;

It&#039;s a TRAILER! It&#039;s supposed to show you a wide variety of what the movie has to offer. So if the imagery was &quot;intriguing&quot; how is that wrong to a &quot;film critic.&quot; (However, if you are referring to the corvette at the beginning I think that&#039;s ridiculous too. I guess Kirk stole it from some super-rich bastard. Who could afford to have that fully restored vette in the 23rd century?)

&quot;corny beyond belief&quot;

You should know better than I do: the OS is of maximum corn. Sometimes corn is an appropriate side dish.

&quot;The trailer makes Star Trek look like a piece of kids entertainment thatâ€™s not worthy of serious criticism.&quot;

Seemed to fit into an older demographic to me. Sex, violence, and explosions make that seem obvious.

Reed Farrington is a man of perplexing contradiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whut?</p>
<p>&#8220;As a film critic, the whole coming of age beginning and subsequent mish-mash was corny beyond belief.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a trailer! How can you possibly know whether or not it&#8217;s corny in the movie? Premature criticism. </p>
<p>&#8220;The imagery was all over the place.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a TRAILER! It&#8217;s supposed to show you a wide variety of what the movie has to offer. So if the imagery was &#8220;intriguing&#8221; how is that wrong to a &#8220;film critic.&#8221; (However, if you are referring to the corvette at the beginning I think that&#8217;s ridiculous too. I guess Kirk stole it from some super-rich bastard. Who could afford to have that fully restored vette in the 23rd century?)</p>
<p>&#8220;corny beyond belief&#8221;</p>
<p>You should know better than I do: the OS is of maximum corn. Sometimes corn is an appropriate side dish.</p>
<p>&#8220;The trailer makes Star Trek look like a piece of kids entertainment thatâ€™s not worthy of serious criticism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seemed to fit into an older demographic to me. Sex, violence, and explosions make that seem obvious.</p>
<p>Reed Farrington is a man of perplexing contradiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said that on the podcast, I didn&#039;t realize the play on words that I had created with awesome / awful.  When you think about it, something that is awful or full of awe should be really good, and something that is awesome or has some awe should be so-so.

But linguistics aside, I&#039;ll try to explain what I meant, Ryan M.  This probably won&#039;t elaborate on what I said during the podcast, but I&#039;ll give it a try.

As a Trekkie, I wanted to see as much as possible of what had been filmed and the trailer certainly has quite a mish-mash of imagery that is intriguing and makes me want to see more.  The music taken from Children of Dune is quite foreboding and fits the intensity of the imagery.  There is even a shot of some toothy creature gaining upon a character that is reminiscent from a shot in The Transformers trailer.  And the final retro title with the three-note Star Trek melody is sublime.

As a film critic, the whole coming of age beginning and subsequent mish-mash was corny beyond belief.  The imagery was all over the place.  Eric Bana saying &quot;The wait is over,&quot; is corny beyond belief.  I&#039;m not even going to try to find a different way to say &quot;corny beyond belief.&quot;  Simon Pegg saying whatever he said is corny beyond belief.  The trailer makes Star Trek look like a piece of kids entertainment that&#039;s not worthy of serious criticism.  Harlan Ellison once said that &quot;Star Trek aspires to mediocrity,&quot; and the trailer surely validates his statement.

BTW, they showed the Star Trek trailer on television during Fringe last night.  I&#039;ve never seen a movie advertised so early before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said that on the podcast, I didn&#8217;t realize the play on words that I had created with awesome / awful.  When you think about it, something that is awful or full of awe should be really good, and something that is awesome or has some awe should be so-so.</p>
<p>But linguistics aside, I&#8217;ll try to explain what I meant, Ryan M.  This probably won&#8217;t elaborate on what I said during the podcast, but I&#8217;ll give it a try.</p>
<p>As a Trekkie, I wanted to see as much as possible of what had been filmed and the trailer certainly has quite a mish-mash of imagery that is intriguing and makes me want to see more.  The music taken from Children of Dune is quite foreboding and fits the intensity of the imagery.  There is even a shot of some toothy creature gaining upon a character that is reminiscent from a shot in The Transformers trailer.  And the final retro title with the three-note Star Trek melody is sublime.</p>
<p>As a film critic, the whole coming of age beginning and subsequent mish-mash was corny beyond belief.  The imagery was all over the place.  Eric Bana saying &#8220;The wait is over,&#8221; is corny beyond belief.  I&#8217;m not even going to try to find a different way to say &#8220;corny beyond belief.&#8221;  Simon Pegg saying whatever he said is corny beyond belief.  The trailer makes Star Trek look like a piece of kids entertainment that&#8217;s not worthy of serious criticism.  Harlan Ellison once said that &#8220;Star Trek aspires to mediocrity,&#8221; and the trailer surely validates his statement.</p>
<p>BTW, they showed the Star Trek trailer on television during Fringe last night.  I&#8217;ve never seen a movie advertised so early before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a Trekkie, I thought the trailer was awesome. As a film critic, I thought the trailer was awful.&quot;

You need to explain that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a Trekkie, I thought the trailer was awesome. As a film critic, I thought the trailer was awful.&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to explain that!</p>
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