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	<title>Comments on: Treknobabble #27: Star Trek Movie Taglines</title>
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		<title>By: trynda1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>trynda1701</dc:creator>
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		<description>The version I remember from the UK TV ads went like this...

“Somewhere in the darkest reaches of the Universe, a battle is about to begin. A battle between good and evil, between a warrior and a madman. A battle between the awesome power of the Starship Enterprise, and the Wrath of Khan!”

The announcer then finished with &quot;Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, at a cinema near you from Sunday!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The version I remember from the UK TV ads went like this&#8230;</p>
<p>“Somewhere in the darkest reaches of the Universe, a battle is about to begin. A battle between good and evil, between a warrior and a madman. A battle between the awesome power of the Starship Enterprise, and the Wrath of Khan!”</p>
<p>The announcer then finished with &#8220;Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, at a cinema near you from Sunday!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another tag line from an ad in Variety for Star Trek: The Wrath of Kahn was

&quot;Somewhere in the deepest, darkest reaches of the Universe a battle is about to begin. A battle between good and evil, between a warrior and a madman.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another tag line from an ad in Variety for Star Trek: The Wrath of Kahn was</p>
<p>&#8220;Somewhere in the deepest, darkest reaches of the Universe a battle is about to begin. A battle between good and evil, between a warrior and a madman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet someone sent him a no strings attached  coupon for free popcorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet someone sent him a no strings attached  coupon for free popcorn.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a minute... Reed, you went to a theatre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute&#8230; Reed, you went to a theatre?</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow-up, I just saw a tag line on a Star Trek advertisement at a theatre: The Future Begins. (I assume it&#039;s a tag line and not a sub-title.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow-up, I just saw a tag line on a Star Trek advertisement at a theatre: The Future Begins. (I assume it&#8217;s a tag line and not a sub-title.)</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not true Reed. Did you read my snide remarks about the action scenes, the comic relief and the sex scene? Insurrection is not that good of a movie, but I think compared to the rest of the TNG films, it&#039;s the best, and I don&#039;t understand how some people would claim First Contact to be really good, but Insurrection to be shit. First Contact seems like a pisspoor sci-fi film to me, the only good moments coming from lines from Picard like &quot;Plenty of letters left in the alphabet&quot;. It&#039;s just a tame action movie in space. At least Insurrection has a real debate somewhere inside it, behind all the glossy action and lame comedy and stupid tacky emotional content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not true Reed. Did you read my snide remarks about the action scenes, the comic relief and the sex scene? Insurrection is not that good of a movie, but I think compared to the rest of the TNG films, it&#8217;s the best, and I don&#8217;t understand how some people would claim First Contact to be really good, but Insurrection to be shit. First Contact seems like a pisspoor sci-fi film to me, the only good moments coming from lines from Picard like &#8220;Plenty of letters left in the alphabet&#8221;. It&#8217;s just a tame action movie in space. At least Insurrection has a real debate somewhere inside it, behind all the glossy action and lame comedy and stupid tacky emotional content.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
		<link>http://www.filmjunk.com/2008/08/07/treknobabble-27-star-trek-movie-taglines/comment-page-1/#comment-442594</link>
		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s strange how Henrik&#039;s &quot;love&quot; for TNG blinds him to the reality of how bad Insurrection is.

(I&#039;ll admit my love for TOS blinds me to the fact of how awful Star Trek V: The Final Frontier really is.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange how Henrik&#8217;s &#8220;love&#8221; for TNG blinds him to the reality of how bad Insurrection is.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll admit my love for TOS blinds me to the fact of how awful Star Trek V: The Final Frontier really is.)</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Six Hundred LivesÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ One Directive.&quot;

If I may defend Insurrection alittle bit, I think this tagline sums up what I like about it, and why it feels much more like Star Trek than any of the other TNG films. All the rebellion nonsense I could give a shit about (though I suspect maybe people who grew up with Star Trek have a much stronger bond with The Federation than somebody like me? Anyway, seems pretty cheesy), and the eternity angle is pretty standard sci-fi wacko stuff, but the one or two scenes that are about the rights of living things, and the importance of the prime directive I think are good, and should have been the basis for the film more. As it stands, of course they have to go the easy route and allude to topical situations that happen to take place on earth in the years sorrounding the release of the film, I guess Rick Berman felt it was needed to have some scenes of people running from robotflies and comedy with Worf growing warts, Data feeling beards that aren&#039;t there etc. Oh, and the obligatory sex scene as well.

I will say too, that I love the singing-scene. That is so weird and oddball and out of place with the entire stereotype of a universe like the one the film depicts, that it very much works. A british tar... Indeed Jean-Luc. It has the best comedy of the film as well, when Picard asks Worf if he knows Gilbert &amp; Sullivan and he answers he hasn&#039;t met all the crew yet. Not exactly stellar stuff, but good enough for a film.

I think Insurrection has too much of a bad rap. Even the effects are quite killer. The hummingbird scene is beautiful... There is alot to like about the film, and it has at its core, the most Star Trekkian themes of all the films, so just look past the tame plot and enjoy the little things, while thinking about the big things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Six Hundred LivesÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ One Directive.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I may defend Insurrection alittle bit, I think this tagline sums up what I like about it, and why it feels much more like Star Trek than any of the other TNG films. All the rebellion nonsense I could give a shit about (though I suspect maybe people who grew up with Star Trek have a much stronger bond with The Federation than somebody like me? Anyway, seems pretty cheesy), and the eternity angle is pretty standard sci-fi wacko stuff, but the one or two scenes that are about the rights of living things, and the importance of the prime directive I think are good, and should have been the basis for the film more. As it stands, of course they have to go the easy route and allude to topical situations that happen to take place on earth in the years sorrounding the release of the film, I guess Rick Berman felt it was needed to have some scenes of people running from robotflies and comedy with Worf growing warts, Data feeling beards that aren&#8217;t there etc. Oh, and the obligatory sex scene as well.</p>
<p>I will say too, that I love the singing-scene. That is so weird and oddball and out of place with the entire stereotype of a universe like the one the film depicts, that it very much works. A british tar&#8230; Indeed Jean-Luc. It has the best comedy of the film as well, when Picard asks Worf if he knows Gilbert &amp; Sullivan and he answers he hasn&#8217;t met all the crew yet. Not exactly stellar stuff, but good enough for a film.</p>
<p>I think Insurrection has too much of a bad rap. Even the effects are quite killer. The hummingbird scene is beautiful&#8230; There is alot to like about the film, and it has at its core, the most Star Trekkian themes of all the films, so just look past the tame plot and enjoy the little things, while thinking about the big things.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Archer never seemed like a leader to me as well.  Perhaps he wasn&#039;t given enough speeches.  The second to last episode had Archer giving a speech that alluded to the forming of the Federation, but I don&#039;t think the speech was very strong.

I like Scott Bakula as an actor, but maybe Archer was just too uptight and straight-laced even though he lightened up around Trip and T&#039;Pol, eventually.  Apparently, in real-life as the veteran actor, Bakula did provide leadership on the set.

Christopher Pike had a 17 issue comic book series, Star Trek: Early Voyages, published by Marvel.

I always liked Jeffrey Hunter&#039;s portrayal of Christopher Pike in The Cage.  But I am of the opinion that had Jeffrey Hunter continued to play Pike in a Star Trek television series, Star Trek would probably not have the iconic status it has now.  From published reports, it was Hunter&#039;s wife who thought Star Trek wasn&#039;t a serious enough vehicle for his talents and caused him to reject the offer to make the second pilot for Star Trek.

It&#039;s interesting that Roddenberry decided to create a whole new character rather than have Shatner play Christopher Pike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Archer never seemed like a leader to me as well.  Perhaps he wasn&#8217;t given enough speeches.  The second to last episode had Archer giving a speech that alluded to the forming of the Federation, but I don&#8217;t think the speech was very strong.</p>
<p>I like Scott Bakula as an actor, but maybe Archer was just too uptight and straight-laced even though he lightened up around Trip and T&#8217;Pol, eventually.  Apparently, in real-life as the veteran actor, Bakula did provide leadership on the set.</p>
<p>Christopher Pike had a 17 issue comic book series, Star Trek: Early Voyages, published by Marvel.</p>
<p>I always liked Jeffrey Hunter&#8217;s portrayal of Christopher Pike in The Cage.  But I am of the opinion that had Jeffrey Hunter continued to play Pike in a Star Trek television series, Star Trek would probably not have the iconic status it has now.  From published reports, it was Hunter&#8217;s wife who thought Star Trek wasn&#8217;t a serious enough vehicle for his talents and caused him to reject the offer to make the second pilot for Star Trek.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that Roddenberry decided to create a whole new character rather than have Shatner play Christopher Pike.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnathan Archer was an adequate commander but he was lacking, in my opinion, so I agree with Henrik on that. If you go into the ST:TAS Robert April was one of the early captains of the Enterprise. Someone who Kirk looked up to but his real idol was the man he succeeded in commanding the starship. Christopher Pike! I would like to see that saga brought to life and maybe a possible remake of that episode if these new characters hit it off... but that vision will never happen since all the episodes are iconic and will never be updated that drastically. Talos IV will remain as is but the Pike storyline could be explored</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnathan Archer was an adequate commander but he was lacking, in my opinion, so I agree with Henrik on that. If you go into the ST:TAS Robert April was one of the early captains of the Enterprise. Someone who Kirk looked up to but his real idol was the man he succeeded in commanding the starship. Christopher Pike! I would like to see that saga brought to life and maybe a possible remake of that episode if these new characters hit it off&#8230; but that vision will never happen since all the episodes are iconic and will never be updated that drastically. Talos IV will remain as is but the Pike storyline could be explored</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;- Meet KirkÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Childhood Hero&quot;

By far the best one, but I don&#039;t for one second believe that anybody would look up to Archer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- Meet KirkÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Childhood Hero&#8221;</p>
<p>By far the best one, but I don&#8217;t for one second believe that anybody would look up to Archer.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed Farrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed Farrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrik made me think that I should have looked into the tag lines for the television series Enterprise:

- Before Janeway...and Picard...before Spock...and Kirk...the Star Trek saga began.

- Meet Kirk&#039;s Childhood Hero

- Back to Where It All Began

- The final frontier has a new beginning.

- For decades man has dreamed of going beyond his galaxy... this fall we will.

- The Star Trek Saga Begins

- A new era of discovery is about to begin.

- The first trek into the unknown

- Before Janeway... Before Sisko... Before Picard... Before Kirk, there was... Enterprise

- Where the new adventure begins...

- Forget what you think you know, it won&#039;t help you here (Season 3 Tagline)

I noticed that the television series Heroes used the tag line &quot;The Future is Coming...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrik made me think that I should have looked into the tag lines for the television series Enterprise:</p>
<p>- Before Janeway&#8230;and Picard&#8230;before Spock&#8230;and Kirk&#8230;the Star Trek saga began.</p>
<p>- Meet Kirk&#8217;s Childhood Hero</p>
<p>- Back to Where It All Began</p>
<p>- The final frontier has a new beginning.</p>
<p>- For decades man has dreamed of going beyond his galaxy&#8230; this fall we will.</p>
<p>- The Star Trek Saga Begins</p>
<p>- A new era of discovery is about to begin.</p>
<p>- The first trek into the unknown</p>
<p>- Before Janeway&#8230; Before Sisko&#8230; Before Picard&#8230; Before Kirk, there was&#8230; Enterprise</p>
<p>- Where the new adventure begins&#8230;</p>
<p>- Forget what you think you know, it won&#8217;t help you here (Season 3 Tagline)</p>
<p>I noticed that the television series Heroes used the tag line &#8220;The Future is Coming&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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