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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: Is the Heath Ledger Oscar Buzz Deserving or Just Hype?</title>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Joker, in the original comic incarnation, was a serial killer who is named after the playing card &quot;jokers&quot; not any comedic character. He&#039;s a sociopath, not a comedian.

Also, if doing drugs somehow disqualifies someone from Oscar consideration, no one would be nominated... EVER. James Dean was a heavy drinker and drug user and, though it probably didn&#039;t contribute directly to his death, Dean was still awarded a posthumous Academy Award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Joker, in the original comic incarnation, was a serial killer who is named after the playing card &#8220;jokers&#8221; not any comedic character. He&#8217;s a sociopath, not a comedian.</p>
<p>Also, if doing drugs somehow disqualifies someone from Oscar consideration, no one would be nominated&#8230; EVER. James Dean was a heavy drinker and drug user and, though it probably didn&#8217;t contribute directly to his death, Dean was still awarded a posthumous Academy Award.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Batman Fan. I think, like Jack Nicholson, that anyone who plays the Joker role should be able to do what Heath Ledger did. He didn&#039;t really have to act with the script all writen out for him and makeup on. I think all this hype about the Dark Knight is kind of like pop music: People only like it because it&#039;s popular. Now call me an idiot for saying an oxymoron, but if a small group of popular people like the movie, they can very quickly impose on others. Also, I hadn&#039;t noticed before, but the Joker SHOULD tell jokes, as the role intended. However, that&#039;s not Ledger&#039;s fault, it&#039;s the fault of the writers. And he did die from abuse, there are infinite sources out there saying that. The point is, Dark Knight would have had the same appeal with Hillary Duff as the Joker as it did with Heath Ledger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Batman Fan. I think, like Jack Nicholson, that anyone who plays the Joker role should be able to do what Heath Ledger did. He didn&#8217;t really have to act with the script all writen out for him and makeup on. I think all this hype about the Dark Knight is kind of like pop music: People only like it because it&#8217;s popular. Now call me an idiot for saying an oxymoron, but if a small group of popular people like the movie, they can very quickly impose on others. Also, I hadn&#8217;t noticed before, but the Joker SHOULD tell jokes, as the role intended. However, that&#8217;s not Ledger&#8217;s fault, it&#8217;s the fault of the writers. And he did die from abuse, there are infinite sources out there saying that. The point is, Dark Knight would have had the same appeal with Hillary Duff as the Joker as it did with Heath Ledger.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batman Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Chris,

I never mentioned that he intended to die or not.  I was just sad that he completed that movie before he died.  I gave reasons why this movie was not so great, you keep saying it&#039;s brilliant.  That&#039;s pretty pathetic.  Reasons please.  I am still begging for someone to give me reasons why he was so great and no one will oblige me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Chris,</p>
<p>I never mentioned that he intended to die or not.  I was just sad that he completed that movie before he died.  I gave reasons why this movie was not so great, you keep saying it&#8217;s brilliant.  That&#8217;s pretty pathetic.  Reasons please.  I am still begging for someone to give me reasons why he was so great and no one will oblige me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Strouther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Strouther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will never know weather he meant to take hes life, as wont i, but ill keep my opinion and believe he didnt. Also you shouldnt be so pleased that he is dead, your sick. He was brilliant in this film as the moajority are saying, you are the strangest person to walk the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will never know weather he meant to take hes life, as wont i, but ill keep my opinion and believe he didnt. Also you shouldnt be so pleased that he is dead, your sick. He was brilliant in this film as the moajority are saying, you are the strangest person to walk the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batman Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make sureÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ I looked at several sources Chris.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine.Ã¢â‚¬Â It also states definitively: Ã¢â‚¬Å“We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Six different drugs at the age of 28? My grandmother takes less than six and sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 88 years old. The doctor can call it drug abuse but I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t? Come on guys. No one has provided me any reasons why this DRUG ABUSER needs to get an oscar.

By the way, you ask if I think that he deserved to die. The answer is an emphatic yes. This retard received everything life had to offer without doing any real work and definitely no work with merit (just watch his movies and see) and heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a drug abuser? ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s totally pathetic. His death actually leads me to believe that there is some sense of balance in the universe.

Also, I love the comment from brokeback. He only further proves my point. I guess he typed J-O-K-E two times in the post without noticing that the words are similar.

I wanted to share something also. When I found out he died. I didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know that the Dark Knight had finished filming so I was overjoyed thinking that he wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t destroy the movie. Sadly, I was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make sureÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ I looked at several sources Chris.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger</a></p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine.Ã¢â‚¬Â It also states definitively: Ã¢â‚¬Å“We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Six different drugs at the age of 28? My grandmother takes less than six and sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 88 years old. The doctor can call it drug abuse but I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t? Come on guys. No one has provided me any reasons why this DRUG ABUSER needs to get an oscar.</p>
<p>By the way, you ask if I think that he deserved to die. The answer is an emphatic yes. This retard received everything life had to offer without doing any real work and definitely no work with merit (just watch his movies and see) and heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a drug abuser? ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s totally pathetic. His death actually leads me to believe that there is some sense of balance in the universe.</p>
<p>Also, I love the comment from brokeback. He only further proves my point. I guess he typed J-O-K-E two times in the post without noticing that the words are similar.</p>
<p>I wanted to share something also. When I found out he died. I didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know that the Dark Knight had finished filming so I was overjoyed thinking that he wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t destroy the movie. Sadly, I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: brokeback mount him</title>
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		<dc:creator>brokeback mount him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the joker needs to tell jokes?  Man, you are dumb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the joker needs to tell jokes?  Man, you are dumb</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Strouther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Strouther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realise he did not die from drug abuse. He died from a misprescription incident while working away. Research why he died and look at the proper facts. Also, the film is so good because he plays the role of a psychotic joker and nails it. Look at every persons review and a huge amount will be saying he is the better joker, say what you may, that was the best batman film and alot of it is down to the way he played the charactor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realise he did not die from drug abuse. He died from a misprescription incident while working away. Research why he died and look at the proper facts. Also, the film is so good because he plays the role of a psychotic joker and nails it. Look at every persons review and a huge amount will be saying he is the better joker, say what you may, that was the best batman film and alot of it is down to the way he played the charactor.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batman Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are all of these replies?  
&quot;Everyone has said he is brilliant?&quot;
  Who is everyone?  Am I not included in EVERYONE?

&quot;Get yourself a joke book?&quot;
  His name is the JOKER and I&#039;m stupid for expecting jokes?

&quot;ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s obvious you missed what the movie is all about.&quot;
  Why don&#039;t you tell me then?  I&#039;m posting this not to make people angry but to honestly understand some other points of view.

Chris and Matt I really wanted replies to why people like this movie so much.  I even wrote that I thought he was a great villain but the Joker had no jokes.  That&#039;s like a martial artist without arms or legs.  Can somebody please give me a real reason why this movie is so great other than using a guy&#039;s DRUG ABUSE death as a reason to canonize him?

The Joker in this movie is no different than the average madman in every action movie.  He&#039;s just an anarchist with a little paint on his face, not a super-villain.

Please give some real reasons if you disagree. Calling me stupid in an internet post really has no effect.  Make me feel stupid, and you really win.  Make me feel stupid by making me recognize what is so great about this movie and that drug abuser&#039;s performance and then you really win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are all of these replies?<br />
&#8220;Everyone has said he is brilliant?&#8221;<br />
  Who is everyone?  Am I not included in EVERYONE?</p>
<p>&#8220;Get yourself a joke book?&#8221;<br />
  His name is the JOKER and I&#8217;m stupid for expecting jokes?</p>
<p>&#8220;ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s obvious you missed what the movie is all about.&#8221;<br />
  Why don&#8217;t you tell me then?  I&#8217;m posting this not to make people angry but to honestly understand some other points of view.</p>
<p>Chris and Matt I really wanted replies to why people like this movie so much.  I even wrote that I thought he was a great villain but the Joker had no jokes.  That&#8217;s like a martial artist without arms or legs.  Can somebody please give me a real reason why this movie is so great other than using a guy&#8217;s DRUG ABUSE death as a reason to canonize him?</p>
<p>The Joker in this movie is no different than the average madman in every action movie.  He&#8217;s just an anarchist with a little paint on his face, not a super-villain.</p>
<p>Please give some real reasons if you disagree. Calling me stupid in an internet post really has no effect.  Make me feel stupid, and you really win.  Make me feel stupid by making me recognize what is so great about this movie and that drug abuser&#8217;s performance and then you really win.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Strouther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Strouther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batman fan..... if you really believe what you have just wrote is true, you are more stupid than you sound. Bassed on the film, everyone has said he is brilliant, which is true. You are moaning because he doesnt tell many jokes, get yourself a joke book. He was brilliant, being serious and funny when he needed to be, one of the best films i have ever been to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batman fan&#8230;.. if you really believe what you have just wrote is true, you are more stupid than you sound. Bassed on the film, everyone has said he is brilliant, which is true. You are moaning because he doesnt tell many jokes, get yourself a joke book. He was brilliant, being serious and funny when he needed to be, one of the best films i have ever been to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea I hope the last post itself was a joke. Because if not, oh, Batman Fan, you have no idea what you just did. You better prepare to be ripped to shreds by legions of TDK fans. I, for one, disagree with everything that you said except that Jack Nicholson did a great Joker. There is nobody that is praising Heath Ledger for using drugs and dying, they&#039;re praising him for his groundbreaking, gritty, and terrifying performance. Do you think he deserved to die? 
On second thought, I&#039;m sorry. I don&#039;t even know why I&#039;m responding. It&#039;s obvious you missed what the movie is all about. Go watch the 60s TV show to find what you know you&#039;re looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea I hope the last post itself was a joke. Because if not, oh, Batman Fan, you have no idea what you just did. You better prepare to be ripped to shreds by legions of TDK fans. I, for one, disagree with everything that you said except that Jack Nicholson did a great Joker. There is nobody that is praising Heath Ledger for using drugs and dying, they&#8217;re praising him for his groundbreaking, gritty, and terrifying performance. Do you think he deserved to die?<br />
On second thought, I&#8217;m sorry. I don&#8217;t even know why I&#8217;m responding. It&#8217;s obvious you missed what the movie is all about. Go watch the 60s TV show to find what you know you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batman Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t usually like to post on these things but this is just ridiculous.  I saw the movie was a bit disappointed.  It&#039;s really incredible how mediocre the movie is given all of the GREAT actors (Bale, Freeman, Oldman, Caine, and Eckart).

What really troubles me is that this guy isn&#039;t being considered for an oscar for his performance but due to his death.  He didn&#039;t die saving a life, he died using drugs.  Not only that but he died abusing drugs.  How is this tragic?  His death is more appropriate for a video on &quot;what not to do&quot; rather than being awarded.

Now let&#039;s get to the movie.  He was a great villain, an excellent villain but a horrible Joker.  Where were the jokes?  I can remember a single joke in the entire movie from him and even he didn&#039;t laugh at that.  There are at least 10 to 20 jokes in the average movie that is not a comedy.

So to recap:
1. He didn&#039;t die tragically, he died of drug abuse
2. He was a terrible JOKEr because he told no JOKES

Sometimes I think that people are paid to write these posts.  Jack Nicholson can rest assured that his portrayal of the Joker is still the best.  Even the Joker in the original Batman told jokes.  Even the Riddler in (the god-aweful) Batman Forever told riddles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t usually like to post on these things but this is just ridiculous.  I saw the movie was a bit disappointed.  It&#8217;s really incredible how mediocre the movie is given all of the GREAT actors (Bale, Freeman, Oldman, Caine, and Eckart).</p>
<p>What really troubles me is that this guy isn&#8217;t being considered for an oscar for his performance but due to his death.  He didn&#8217;t die saving a life, he died using drugs.  Not only that but he died abusing drugs.  How is this tragic?  His death is more appropriate for a video on &#8220;what not to do&#8221; rather than being awarded.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s get to the movie.  He was a great villain, an excellent villain but a horrible Joker.  Where were the jokes?  I can remember a single joke in the entire movie from him and even he didn&#8217;t laugh at that.  There are at least 10 to 20 jokes in the average movie that is not a comedy.</p>
<p>So to recap:<br />
1. He didn&#8217;t die tragically, he died of drug abuse<br />
2. He was a terrible JOKEr because he told no JOKES</p>
<p>Sometimes I think that people are paid to write these posts.  Jack Nicholson can rest assured that his portrayal of the Joker is still the best.  Even the Joker in the original Batman told jokes.  Even the Riddler in (the god-aweful) Batman Forever told riddles.</p>
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		<dc:creator>porkin bobs mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo bob the slob eat a dick sounds more like a racial issue to you</description>
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