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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would have no problem with somebody actually proving these tremendous errors with my arguments.&quot;

this is the last time i&#039;m going to say this - you DONT make real arguments, you go on hyperbolic boasts about everything without supporting your claims when you make them.  you do everything you can to provoke a big drawn out argument.  theres a difference between being confident and being arrogant. if for once you&#039;d realize your opinions are just that instead of Gospel Truth that require you burst into every topic so incredibly upset you wouldnt get such reprisals from so many people.  you&#039;ve been called a tightass by enough people now that a thinking person might consider that maybe there IS something to what people are saying about them every time they have to be the loudest person in the room.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would have no problem with somebody actually proving these tremendous errors with my arguments.&#8221;</p>
<p>this is the last time i&#8217;m going to say this &#8211; you DONT make real arguments, you go on hyperbolic boasts about everything without supporting your claims when you make them.  you do everything you can to provoke a big drawn out argument.  theres a difference between being confident and being arrogant. if for once you&#8217;d realize your opinions are just that instead of Gospel Truth that require you burst into every topic so incredibly upset you wouldnt get such reprisals from so many people.  you&#8217;ve been called a tightass by enough people now that a thinking person might consider that maybe there IS something to what people are saying about them every time they have to be the loudest person in the room.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man...I missed a lot.  I enjoyed the Oscars.  I also enjoyed the snacks at Sean&#039;s house.  Excellent work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man&#8230;I missed a lot.  I enjoyed the Oscars.  I also enjoyed the snacks at Sean&#8217;s house.  Excellent work.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you want me to write all my comments with your personal preferences in mind, or do you want me to try and accomodate everybody who may read something that I write.

You have to realize that I am not writing something with you in mind. So there is no reason for you to react by taking it personally. 

One thing that might help these issues the way I see it though, is instead of responding with &quot;Fuck off!&quot;, &quot;Shut up!&quot; or &quot;Why are you looking for a fight?&quot; I would have no problem with somebody actually proving these tremendous errors with my arguments. The best you came up with was calling them &#039;insane&#039; which is hardly a factual claim. 

I am sorry if I offend people who write my comments. I sincerely do not mean to enrage or inflame anyone. It&#039;s how I write though. I write confidently. I prefer reading something that isn&#039;t flimsy and that doesn&#039;t necessarily apologize for itself. It&#039;s probably those 5 years I studied on Vulcan. I don&#039;t get why anybody would get caught up in it though. If I write something you disagree with, fine, retort and explain why I am an ignorant snob who doesn&#039;t get it. I have no problem with that, even if the way I write may seem like it(?). But don&#039;t start these flamewars where it&#039;s all about who can discredit the opponent the quickest and thus stand as the victor. We&#039;re just talking, we don&#039;t even come close to actually knowing eachother for crying out loud! 

I enjoy movies. I like to talk about them. I appreciate this outlet for my interest, and I use it when I want to, for as long as I am allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you want me to write all my comments with your personal preferences in mind, or do you want me to try and accomodate everybody who may read something that I write.</p>
<p>You have to realize that I am not writing something with you in mind. So there is no reason for you to react by taking it personally. </p>
<p>One thing that might help these issues the way I see it though, is instead of responding with &#8220;Fuck off!&#8221;, &#8220;Shut up!&#8221; or &#8220;Why are you looking for a fight?&#8221; I would have no problem with somebody actually proving these tremendous errors with my arguments. The best you came up with was calling them &#8216;insane&#8217; which is hardly a factual claim. </p>
<p>I am sorry if I offend people who write my comments. I sincerely do not mean to enrage or inflame anyone. It&#8217;s how I write though. I write confidently. I prefer reading something that isn&#8217;t flimsy and that doesn&#8217;t necessarily apologize for itself. It&#8217;s probably those 5 years I studied on Vulcan. I don&#8217;t get why anybody would get caught up in it though. If I write something you disagree with, fine, retort and explain why I am an ignorant snob who doesn&#8217;t get it. I have no problem with that, even if the way I write may seem like it(?). But don&#8217;t start these flamewars where it&#8217;s all about who can discredit the opponent the quickest and thus stand as the victor. We&#8217;re just talking, we don&#8217;t even come close to actually knowing eachother for crying out loud! </p>
<p>I enjoy movies. I like to talk about them. I appreciate this outlet for my interest, and I use it when I want to, for as long as I am allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;foreign language film&#039; is somewhat of a tossup some years, its ripe for upsets, going with the one you&#039;ve heard of is not a good bet becuase its a cagetory people like to vote for underdogs

Downfall didnt win. Hero didnt win. Amelie didnt win. City Of God wasnt even nominated. all lost to films you&#039;ve probably never heard of. not since Life Is Beautiful has what was considered the overwhelming media favorite actually won.

as much as i love Pans Labyrinth, Amelie losing was especially unexpected.  it had the hype and it was a feel good movie people usually fall for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;foreign language film&#8217; is somewhat of a tossup some years, its ripe for upsets, going with the one you&#8217;ve heard of is not a good bet becuase its a cagetory people like to vote for underdogs</p>
<p>Downfall didnt win. Hero didnt win. Amelie didnt win. City Of God wasnt even nominated. all lost to films you&#8217;ve probably never heard of. not since Life Is Beautiful has what was considered the overwhelming media favorite actually won.</p>
<p>as much as i love Pans Labyrinth, Amelie losing was especially unexpected.  it had the hype and it was a feel good movie people usually fall for.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were discussing this on the live podcast at one point. I&#039;m not really sure. I thought it was up to the producers of the movie whether or not they wanted to &quot;compete with the big boys&quot; and go for Best Picture, or play it safe and stay within the Best Foreign Language category. But thinking about it further, I don&#039;t see how the producers could have any say in the matter.

Letters From Iwo Jima would have easily won if it was in the Best Foreign Language category. Then again, I would have thought the same for Pan&#039;s Labyrinth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were discussing this on the live podcast at one point. I&#8217;m not really sure. I thought it was up to the producers of the movie whether or not they wanted to &#8220;compete with the big boys&#8221; and go for Best Picture, or play it safe and stay within the Best Foreign Language category. But thinking about it further, I don&#8217;t see how the producers could have any say in the matter.</p>
<p>Letters From Iwo Jima would have easily won if it was in the Best Foreign Language category. Then again, I would have thought the same for Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cracksmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>cracksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad The Departed won last night. From the nominees in that category, I think it deserverd the Oscar.

Does anyone know what causes a movie to get put into the &quot;Best Picture&quot; or &quot;Best Foreign Language&quot; category? Letters from Iwo Jima was 99% Japanese... and Babel had its fair share of foreign language too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad The Departed won last night. From the nominees in that category, I think it deserverd the Oscar.</p>
<p>Does anyone know what causes a movie to get put into the &#8220;Best Picture&#8221; or &#8220;Best Foreign Language&#8221; category? Letters from Iwo Jima was 99% Japanese&#8230; and Babel had its fair share of foreign language too.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that summary are all things you just threw out there with no justification and had to fight about people with at length later. you dont think before you post, you just throw words like &#039;cliche&#039; and &#039;unoriginal&#039; out there without any examples. or use one tiny scene to typify the whole movie that doesnt reign true at all.

you write arrogantly and you DONT MAKE CLEAR POINTS. you make one sentence judgments on films as if they are self evident. you use axioms not arguments, and if you dont like people getting upset at you dragging people into debates with such shitty argumentative tactics, STOP DOING IT.  your argument style is disrespectful and inconsiderate, and you recognize that. therefore if you have no intent in at least trying to be respectful, i will respond to you in a direct and disrespectful way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that summary are all things you just threw out there with no justification and had to fight about people with at length later. you dont think before you post, you just throw words like &#8216;cliche&#8217; and &#8216;unoriginal&#8217; out there without any examples. or use one tiny scene to typify the whole movie that doesnt reign true at all.</p>
<p>you write arrogantly and you DONT MAKE CLEAR POINTS. you make one sentence judgments on films as if they are self evident. you use axioms not arguments, and if you dont like people getting upset at you dragging people into debates with such shitty argumentative tactics, STOP DOING IT.  your argument style is disrespectful and inconsiderate, and you recognize that. therefore if you have no intent in at least trying to be respectful, i will respond to you in a direct and disrespectful way.</p>
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		<title>By: The man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck you Babel! you shit movie! You&#039;ll be hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck you Babel! you shit movie! You&#8217;ll be hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying I have something against genres or genre movies. I&#039;m just saying that when you just make a movie using all the established stereotypical clichÃ©&#039;s I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily an achievement at all, let alone one worth recognizing. There are ways to make a genre movie and yet do something interesting with it. Think of movies like &#039;Signs&#039;, &#039;From Dusk Till Dawn&#039;, &#039;Silence of the Lambs&#039;, &#039;Se7en&#039;, &#039;Spartacus&#039; and &#039;Annie Hall&#039;. All movies well within established genres, utilizing plenty of the established methods, yet all offer new and interesting filmmaking and genuinely creative ways to make a movie.

Goon: You bring up a summary of the points I have made, yet leave out everything I said to justify my thoughts. Calling me insane for thinking Kill Bill told a situation instead of a story, that people shouldn&#039;t be cracking jokes directed towards the audience in the middle of intense war scenes and that rubbing your nose in the tributes to the point of calling your movie Grindhouse, is a pretty wacky statement itself. 

I may write arrogantly, but I would rather make a clear point than muddle it with ten thousand apologies and prefaces. It annoys me that I have to address myself personally everytime I post a comment though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying I have something against genres or genre movies. I&#8217;m just saying that when you just make a movie using all the established stereotypical clichÃ©&#8217;s I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily an achievement at all, let alone one worth recognizing. There are ways to make a genre movie and yet do something interesting with it. Think of movies like &#8216;Signs&#8217;, &#8216;From Dusk Till Dawn&#8217;, &#8216;Silence of the Lambs&#8217;, &#8216;Se7en&#8217;, &#8216;Spartacus&#8217; and &#8216;Annie Hall&#8217;. All movies well within established genres, utilizing plenty of the established methods, yet all offer new and interesting filmmaking and genuinely creative ways to make a movie.</p>
<p>Goon: You bring up a summary of the points I have made, yet leave out everything I said to justify my thoughts. Calling me insane for thinking Kill Bill told a situation instead of a story, that people shouldn&#8217;t be cracking jokes directed towards the audience in the middle of intense war scenes and that rubbing your nose in the tributes to the point of calling your movie Grindhouse, is a pretty wacky statement itself. </p>
<p>I may write arrogantly, but I would rather make a clear point than muddle it with ten thousand apologies and prefaces. It annoys me that I have to address myself personally everytime I post a comment though.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>other remakes nominated for best picture - &quot;munity on the bounty&quot;, &quot;hamlet&quot;, &quot;oliver!&quot;. &quot;marty&quot; won and is a remake of a tv show. - those stupid unoriginal films, THEYRE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THESE REMAKES OF TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. CLEARLY THESE ARE TO BLAME. WOE!

and what about musicials, everything from Chicago, Dreamgirls, Gigi, Sound of Music, are they uncreative and unoriginal too since they had source material there?

Seabiscuit is a remake. Beauty and the Beast. Romeo and Juliet wad done multiple times. Munich is sort of a remake. Scent of a Woman. 

so there you have it. your &#039;this will ruin the industry with more remakes&#039; bullshit is simply that - bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>other remakes nominated for best picture &#8211; &#8220;munity on the bounty&#8221;, &#8220;hamlet&#8221;, &#8220;oliver!&#8221;. &#8220;marty&#8221; won and is a remake of a tv show. &#8211; those stupid unoriginal films, THEYRE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THESE REMAKES OF TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. CLEARLY THESE ARE TO BLAME. WOE!</p>
<p>and what about musicials, everything from Chicago, Dreamgirls, Gigi, Sound of Music, are they uncreative and unoriginal too since they had source material there?</p>
<p>Seabiscuit is a remake. Beauty and the Beast. Romeo and Juliet wad done multiple times. Munich is sort of a remake. Scent of a Woman. </p>
<p>so there you have it. your &#8216;this will ruin the industry with more remakes&#8217; bullshit is simply that &#8211; bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Itâ€™s not a bad movie either, but itâ€™s unoriginal.&quot;

how is completely overhauling and adapting a screenplay to the level the Departed did less original than working from a novel?  source material is source material. i question the standard of &#039;originality&#039; set by so many people.
i also question your standard of creativity. The Departed is a Scorsese-style movie by Scorsese.  Babel is done an awful lot like Inarritu&#039;s other films, and if i were like you i&#039;d simply call it an &#039;unoriginal oscar bait gimmick film with no creativity&#039; and only say that.

and here i&#039;ve fallen into your trap again, you start debates by saying nothing and only after everyones riled up do you actually speak at length. fucking clownshoes. fuck.  you cant see how people would find your method of getting people talking so ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ANNOYING?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s not a bad movie either, but itâ€™s unoriginal.&#8221;</p>
<p>how is completely overhauling and adapting a screenplay to the level the Departed did less original than working from a novel?  source material is source material. i question the standard of &#8216;originality&#8217; set by so many people.<br />
i also question your standard of creativity. The Departed is a Scorsese-style movie by Scorsese.  Babel is done an awful lot like Inarritu&#8217;s other films, and if i were like you i&#8217;d simply call it an &#8216;unoriginal oscar bait gimmick film with no creativity&#8217; and only say that.</p>
<p>and here i&#8217;ve fallen into your trap again, you start debates by saying nothing and only after everyones riled up do you actually speak at length. fucking clownshoes. fuck.  you cant see how people would find your method of getting people talking so ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ANNOYING?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think The Departed is counted as a remake in a lot of people&#039;s minds, so I don&#039;t think it necessarily validates remakes artistically. The reason it was a good film is because it held its own instead of being a regurgitation of a superior film. Believe it or not, it wasn&#039;t the first remake to win best picture either (Ben-Hur). I think there would be more chance of there being Irish crime flicks coming out (perhaps the Paul Haggis series The Black Donnellys is proof of that).

I do think Babel was the better movie, but I don&#039;t think The Departed is inferior just because it was a genre film. What have you got against genres anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think The Departed is counted as a remake in a lot of people&#8217;s minds, so I don&#8217;t think it necessarily validates remakes artistically. The reason it was a good film is because it held its own instead of being a regurgitation of a superior film. Believe it or not, it wasn&#8217;t the first remake to win best picture either (Ben-Hur). I think there would be more chance of there being Irish crime flicks coming out (perhaps the Paul Haggis series The Black Donnellys is proof of that).</p>
<p>I do think Babel was the better movie, but I don&#8217;t think The Departed is inferior just because it was a genre film. What have you got against genres anyway?</p>
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