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	<title>Comments on: Open Forum Friday: What&#8217;s The Difference Between Homage and Theft?</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be like Capt&#039;n Obvious here but when a movie takes the whole device of a scene and plays it in a similar situation then it is a theft.  I would think that homage is more like when a director uses a creative device from a previous movie but in a somewhat novel way.  I would call Brian DePalma&#039;s use of the stairway scene at the train station in The Untouchables an homage to Sergei Eisenstein&#039;s steps of Odessa scene from Battleship Potemkin.  I would call Michael Bay&#039;s whole film The Island a theft of Robert S. Fiveson&#039;s The Clonus Horror, as the plot and the essential action of the characters are the same. I do not feel the change in style and the upgrade of visual effects are relevant as a significant source of originality in this question.  I agree with Bolbo in the sense of this being an experiment and spoke more about this in my comment about Apocalypse Oz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be like Capt&#8217;n Obvious here but when a movie takes the whole device of a scene and plays it in a similar situation then it is a theft.  I would think that homage is more like when a director uses a creative device from a previous movie but in a somewhat novel way.  I would call Brian DePalma&#8217;s use of the stairway scene at the train station in The Untouchables an homage to Sergei Eisenstein&#8217;s steps of Odessa scene from Battleship Potemkin.  I would call Michael Bay&#8217;s whole film The Island a theft of Robert S. Fiveson&#8217;s The Clonus Horror, as the plot and the essential action of the characters are the same. I do not feel the change in style and the upgrade of visual effects are relevant as a significant source of originality in this question.  I agree with Bolbo in the sense of this being an experiment and spoke more about this in my comment about Apocalypse Oz.</p>
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		<title>By: Bolbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bolbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of something like this &#039;Apocalypse Oz&#039; movie it is to miss the point entirely to critisize it for unoriginality. From what I can tell from the site, it&#039;s reason for being is precisely a repurposing of found materials in an experimental fashion. They point out too that the movies its based on are themselves adaptations of other people&#039;s work. We don&#039;t critisize Coppola or the Wizard of Oz for ripping off other people&#039;s work, yet in many respects that&#039;s what they did. &#039;Apocalypse Oz&#039; seems to have some fair use/ copyright issue thing going on aswell. I think its an interesting project - and not just a trailer parody, but a new movie altogether. They aren&#039;t claiming originality of the source material though. Tarantino on the other hand blatantly lifts and claims it as his own. God knows how he got away with &#039;Reservoir Dogs&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of something like this &#8216;Apocalypse Oz&#8217; movie it is to miss the point entirely to critisize it for unoriginality. From what I can tell from the site, it&#8217;s reason for being is precisely a repurposing of found materials in an experimental fashion. They point out too that the movies its based on are themselves adaptations of other people&#8217;s work. We don&#8217;t critisize Coppola or the Wizard of Oz for ripping off other people&#8217;s work, yet in many respects that&#8217;s what they did. &#8216;Apocalypse Oz&#8217; seems to have some fair use/ copyright issue thing going on aswell. I think its an interesting project &#8211; and not just a trailer parody, but a new movie altogether. They aren&#8217;t claiming originality of the source material though. Tarantino on the other hand blatantly lifts and claims it as his own. God knows how he got away with &#8216;Reservoir Dogs&#8217;.</p>
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